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Could Emile Smith Rowe be the man that is sacrificed for Declan Rice?

Before I start, I do not think “£120million or less with a player thrown in” has much legs to it.

Firstly, I think the full fee for Rice will be less than £100m. Secondly, “player + cash” are thing that rarely happens in football. They are concept for headline writers and those that play far too much Football Manager.

They rarely happen because of the variables.

Normal transfer are hard enough to conclude. Negiotiating with clubs, players, their representatives. Agreeing on fees, wages and more. An exchange of players is even more complicated.

You Player A, Player B, Club Y and Club Z.

Player A needs to want to play for Club Z, Player B needs to want to Club Y. All it takes is for one of these players to not want to move to that club – either wanting to stay, or has an alternative club they want to join – and the deal falls through.

All players must be happy with the financial package on offer on both sides, and then agents, etc also need to agree.

Club Y must want Player B and Club Z must want Player A. If one club does not fancy signing the player, or has a preferred target elsewhere, the deal falls through.

Whilst Club Y might offer Player A as part of the deal, maybe Club Z want to sign Player C from a different club in that position?

And both clubs must agree on the values of both players. And work out who pays what in between.

Finally we have players demanding money to leave.

If you are the “lesser player” and know that your decision could impact your current club getting their first choice player, you might be inclined to demand a payment to leave the club. “Pay me the money or I will turn down the contract, collapsing the deal”.

The advantage of dealing with someone like West Ham is that anyone at Arsenal, already living in the London / Herts / Essex borders, will not need to relocate to a new city or country. That takes out one variable.

So if Edu (and West Ham) were looking to discuss players that might be interested in being added to a deal for Declan Rice, who would they consider?

Emile Smith Rowe

Right, let’s start with a big one. Emile Smith Rowe.

The Hale End graduate had his breakthrough last season, scoring 10 Premier League goals. He has spent the majority of this season in the treatment room.

We discussed recently about how Arsenal need to add quality to the squad. And Smith Rowe is certainly one of those we can look to improve on.

In a comparison of our squad to Manchester City’s, Smith Rowe was an additional player, meaning we could potentially sell him this summer without the need to replace him.

In Bukayo Saka, Gabriel Martinelli, Leoandro Trossard and Gabriel Jesus we have a good clutch of wide options that will start ahead of him. An additional new attacking player will likely join in the summer pushing Smith Rowe further down the pecking order.

There has been talk of Mikel Arteta working to convert Smith Rowe to a more central player, and that is something he certainly has the ability for.

But if Declan Rice signs, that will see us have Rice, Granit Xhaka, Martin Odegaard, Fabio Vieira and Jorginho as options in the “two-8” positions.

Add in Smith Rowe’s injury problems – his career has been plagued by them up to this point – and that he turns 23 in January, I would not be surprised if we try and cash in on him this summer.

So instead of cashing in on him, why not see if West Ham will take him as part of the Declan Rice deal?

Smith Rowe get’s his regular football and gets to remain local, West Ham get a player that improves their team (when fit), and Arsenal knock £20-30million of the Rice fee.

Folarin Balogun

The on-loan hitman has been making waves out in France. But following the theme of “buying better than we have”, Folarin Balogun is simply not better than Gabriel Jesus. And a debate is to be had over whether he is better than Eddie Nketiah.

Balogun has also leaked that he wants to be playing first team football next season. And that is just not something Arsenal can provide.

If we add a striker to the squad next summer, it has to be someone like Victor Osimhen, Dusan Vlahovic or Ivan Toney. All are better than Balogun and will add real depth to the squad.

Depending on sales, I can realistically see Arsenal getting one of these in the summer, then utilising Jesus’s versatility to fill in behind the new man, as well as the out-wide option.

Michail Antonio is now 33 and Gianluca Scamacca has struggled. Balogun would be the Hammers first choice striker.

West Ham is probably Balogun’s level. He will score them 10-15 league goals a season.

You would expect Balogun to fetch £30-40million on the open market. A decent chunk to knock off the Rice fee.

Charlie Patino

Like Balogun, Charlie Patino has had the taste of first team football this season, on loan at Blackpool.

The youngster had an impressive start, but struggled for form alongside his teammates as Blackpool were relegated from the Championship.

Patino is clearly talented, but is also a long way from being ready to play week in, week out for a Champions League side.

Arsenal probably wanted to send him on loan next season to a lower Premier League side. Someone probably like West Ham! But Patino only has 2-years left on his contract and seemingly has no interest in signing a new deal.

The chances are, Arsenal will sell him this summer.

Whilst Patino would not be a like for like replacement for Rice – Declan is clearly levels above – he would provide a useful option in their midfield if Rice leaves. And with regular game time for the Hammers could develop into a top player.

I would be surprised if Patino would raise more than £10m on the open market, so does not really drop the price of Rice down too much. Likewise, West Ham’s recruitment team probably have other names ahead of him to replace Rice.

Your Football Manager player will say “well why don’t we add him as a 2nd player and knock another £10million off”. If player + cash deals were rare, player + player + cash are unicorns.

Kieran Tierney

Keep an on on Kieran Tierney this summer. He could depart.

Whilst he has proven his worth for Arsenal in recent weeks, coming on for Olexsandr Zinchenko early in games to help shore up the defence, his time at Arsenal might be coming to an end.

Tierney has reportedly been frustrated with his lack of game time, and may well look for regular football elsewhere. Newcastle United is the likely destination.

Aaron Cresswell is 33-years-old and his best days are beyond him. Tierney would make a good long-term replacement at West Ham for him.

But this is where player + cash becomes completed.

Would Tierney want to go from a team challenging for the title to a team battling relegation? And if there is another Champions League team (Newcastle) sniffing about, his preference might be to move to them, snubbing West Ham.

I can see us getting £30million for Tierney. I just think it might be from Newcastle rather than West Ham.

Others

This is where we get into the world of make believe a bit, proposing players that we do not want, with it also being unlikely West Ham would want them.

Albert Sambi Lokonga was playing regularly under Patrick Vieira, but has played just twice in Palace’s last 8 games. One start. I think his future is playing for a mid-table team in Germany or France. Expect maybe another loan deal next season with a “option to buy” clause.

For Nuno Tavares, he could be an option to replace Cresswell, but David Moyes will not want to work a defender that is so erratic.

Reiss Nelson and Ainsley Maitland-Niles are excluded due to their contracts expiring.

Eddie Nketiah is basically the same text as Balogun. The only difference being he has not signalled his intent to leave. And his departure would not satisfy Balogun’s desire for first team football.

West Ham could not afford Nicolas Pepe‘s wages, so we would end up having to pay them to take him. Whilst Pablo Mari‘s loan at Monza will likely be made permanent.

Finally the likes of Rob Holding, Cedric Soares, Auston Trusty and Marquinhos would not be valued high enough to have a significant impact on the fee.


If a player + cash deal does happen, Smith Rowe and Balogun are the two to keep an eye on.

Keenos

Arsenal do not need a bigger squad for Champions League football

At just 23, Manchester City have used the least amount of players in the Premier League this season.

At the other end of the table, Nottingham Forest (33), Southampton (32) and Chelsea (32) have used the most.

What this shows is that it is not about the quantity of players in your squad, but the quality.

We have Champions League football next year, and can expect to play 50+ games in 2023/24 – Manchester City will play over 60 this season.

That has lead to many saying “we need to increase how many players we have” and question why we would consider letting the likes of Charlie Patino and Folarin Balogun depart. These thought processes are incorrect.

We compete on 4 fronts next season not by promoting young, raw players to make the squad larger, but by signing players at the top end of the squad.

Manchester City’s squad is small, but filled with quality. That allows Pep Gaurdiola to rest and rotate regularly, ensuring players that are close to the “red zone” do not get over played and pick up an injury.

They rotate between Riyad Mahrez, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish and Bernardo Silva. They have John Stones, Ruben Dias, Aymeric Laporte, Nathen Ake and Manuel Akanji as options at the back.

This means players come in and out of the team, and they suffer very few injuries.

According to Planet Football, up until 16/03/2023, Manchester City players had missed just 49 games through injury this season. Only Brighton (44) had players miss less games.

We were 7th on the table with 79 games missed (the data was taken on the same day as William Saliba’s final game). 9 teams have players that have missed over 100 combined games:

1. Liverpool – 162 games missed through injury
2. Chelsea – 124
3. Newcastle United – 122
4. Nottingham Forest – 120
5. Bournemouth – 116
6. Wolves – 108
7. Manchester United – 106
8. Leeds United – 104
9. Leicester City – 103

We have not suffered due to William Saliba being injured because we do not have enough players. We have 4 central defenders, plus 2 right backs that can play in the middle.

We have suffered because the drop off from Saliba to his cover (Rob Holding) is too great – remember City have close to £300m of central defensive options.

Now I do not expect us to go out and outspend Manchester City. They are state funded which allows them unlimited funds to spend on transfer and, more importantly, wages. But that does not mean we can not improve.

The Patino situation sums up what I am talking about.

Fans call for Patino to stay as we need more players. But personally I would buy Declan Rice.

Rice improves the top end of the team. He would walk into our starting XI in two positions; replacing either Partey or Xhaka.

Patino does not walk into the team. He would not be adequete cover for Xhaka or Partey.

You buy Rice, you then rotate Partey, Xhaka and Declan, which keeps all 3 fitter and playing at a higher level for longer. You keep Patino, he is not of the required level which leads Xhaka and Partey to start every game, over play, and get injured.

“But you can have both” some will cry. Really?

Say we buy Rice, that then gives us: Rice, Xhaka, Partey, Odegaard and Jorginho. With further back up in Mohamed Elneny and Fabio Vieira. Now let’s do a little exercise:

Rodri – 50 games played this season (Rice)
Kevin de Bruyne – 44 (Odegaard)
Ilkay Gundogan – 46 (Partey)
Bernardo Silva – 50 (Xhaka)
Phillips – 17 (Jorginho)

Now considering this season Partey has played more games (36) than any other year since joining, I do not think we can expect him to play 50. So you could probably take 15 off him and give 15 to Jorginho.

So we keep Patino and sign Rice, where does he actually get minutes? Get game time? Because he is not better than any of the 5 Arsenal players mentioned above.

Now yes, some will argue that he could replace Elneny or Vieira in the squad. But realistically, how many minutes will they get next season?

By signing Rice, we would have improved the top end of the squad. And that means we can not give game time to Patino.

I have expanded on this thought process, trying to match up our players to the Manchester City equivalent to further highlight the point:

PlayerGames playedArsenal equivalent
Ederson44Aaron Ramsdale
Stefan Ortega11Matt Turner
Scott Carson0Karl Hein
Kyle Walker32Ben White
Rico Lewis20Takehiro Tomiyasu
John Stones29William Saliba
Manuel Akanji43Gabriel
Rúben Dias39Rob Holding
Aymeric Laporte20Jakub Kiwior
Josh Wilson-Esbrand2Reull Walters
Nathan Aké39Olexsandr Zinchenko
João Cancelo / Sergio Gómez45Kieran Tierney
Rodri50Declan Rice ???
Kevin De Bruyne44Martin Odegaard
Bernardo Silva50Granit Xhaka
İlkay Gündoğan46Thomas Partey
Cole Palmer22Fabio Vieira
Kalvin Phillips17Jorginho
Máximo Perrone2Mohamed Elneny
Riyad Mahrez42Bukayo Saka
Jack Grealish46Gabriel Martinelli
Phil Foden41Leandro Trossard
Erling Haaland47Gabriel Jesus
Julián Álvarez43Eddie Nketiah

As you can see, we already match up fairly well in terms of volume of players. We also have Emile Smith Rowe as additional squad depth.

The difference between us and Manchester City is not quantity of players but quality. And that is why we need to be looking at the top end of the squad, not bringing in youth players to add additional numbers.

Our 2nd choice striker is Eddie Nketiah. Manchester City’s is Julian Alvarez.

Balogun is no better than Nketiah, and whilst integratting him into the squad increases our options from 2 to 3, it does not close the gap from 1 to 2. The drop off from Jesus to Nketiah is larger than from Haaland to Alvarez.

If we are looking at signing a new striker this summer, it has to be someone that is better than Nketiah – and even perhaps better than Jesus – rather than someone who is not as good as either.

And even if you argue that Balogun is better than Nketiah, you would struggle to argue that he is on par with Alvarez. We should perhaps be looking at “better than Jesus” with Gabi becoming 2nd choice striker / wing option, than just looking at “better than Nketiah.”

Declan Rice takes us up a step in quality. Charlie Patino does not.

In defence, whilst some might be tempted to say “promote Reull Walters and use Ben White in the middle”, I would prefer to buy a central defender that is better than Holding, and continue to utilise White on the right.

Walters is just 18. He can go out on loan like Manchester City’s Josh Wilson-Esbrand has this.

Buying a top attacker, a top central midfielder, a top central defender pushing others “down a spot”. It is no longer Xhaka, Partey, Jorginho, Lokonga, Elneny, Patino but Rice, Xhaka, Partey, Jorginho, Lokonga, Elneny, Patino.

You then thin out the squad but selling those at the bottom end (Lokonga, Elneny, Patino).

In summary, this summer is not about increasing the quantity of players in the squad. It is all about increasing the quality.

Expect just 3 or 4 signings, and a lot of fringe and youth outgoings. And do not cry because your hyped up youngster has been sold “without getting a chance”. And certainly do not demand that we sign Rice whilst keep Patino. Pick a side of the fence.

Keenos

Four reasons why Declan Rice will move for less than £120million

Two years left on contract

Declan Rice’s existing deal has 1-year left on it. West Ham have an option to extend for a year.

This £120million malarkey is just them posturing. Like putting your house up for sale for £500,000 when you know you will except £450,000.

This is the last summer they will be able to get big money for Rice. And big money is around the £80m mark. I can not see it going higher than that for a variety of reasons,. Including the length of his contract.

The extension will just be so that they get a feee next summer for him; but that fee will be drastically reduced.

I do not see West Ham keeping Rice for another 2-years, so the contract situation is meaningless. They will sell this summer.

Rice wants to leave

Declan has been on a journey with West Ham, but he now clearly feels it is time to get off that train.

He is not a West Ham boy. Not born and bred within the sound of the Mary le Bow bells.

Rice is now 24, does he really want to spend another year or two in relegation battles? Or finishing mid-table? Probably not.

He has seen his great friend and fellow former Irish international Jack Grealish move from his boyhood club to one of the top sides. Grealish will be adding his 2nd league title in 2 years.

Rice was heavily linked with a move away last year. When that happens, and the player stays, you wonder what deal they have done with the club.

“Stay for one more year and then we will not stand in yoru way next summer” is the discussion that would have been had.

It will be very bad for West Ham if they do not honour the gentleman’s agreement. If they try and price him out of a big move.

Rice will also expect to earn £200k+ a week. That is around 3 times his current salary.

If Rice leads his team to a European trophy at the end of this season, he knows he can leave having taken the Hammers to glory, and probably as far as they will go.

Next season he wants to be playing Champions League football. Competing for major honours. And that is not something he can do at West Ham.

More money, more trophies. Rice will force a move.

Lack of competition

It is strange for a player of Declan Rice’s quality to come on the market and there be such little competition for his signature. Bar minor interest from Chelsea and Liverpool, Arsenal will not face any other competition for him.

Manchester City already have Rodri, with Kalvin Phillips backing him up, whilst Manchester United have Casemiro and Fred. I would be surprised if they go that big for a central midfielder.

With Manchester United, their ownership issues may also massively impact their transfer dealins this summer.

Liverpool are on the look out for a midfielder, having lost out on Jude Bellingham, but I do not think they have the money to make big moves in the transfer market this summer.

They will also be more focusing on someone a little more attacking, like Alexis Mac Allister, rather than a defensive shield.

Likewise, Chelsea have spent so much in the last 12 months, I am not sure they have much left in the pot. They will need to sell to buy this summer. Arsenal should be looking to get a Rice deal done early, before Chelsea get their eggs in a row.

Tottenham can not afford him.

Newcastle could be the final option in England. Their transfer business will be very interesting. With Champions League football, they can now attract a higher quality of player. But can they compete for the best?

When you look abroad, Real Madrid are set to add Bellingham to a squad that already contains Aurélien Tchouaméni, Eduardo Camavinga and Federico Valverde. Whilst Barcelona have huge financial restrictions.

PSG will always come into the equation, but I feel top players do not have much interest in wasting their career in Pairs.

Elsewhere, Italian and German clubs will not spend that sort of money on a single player.

That leaves just Arsenal as the only said that have the money, the squad space, and the desire to land Declan Rice.

Other options

Declan Rice is not the only top defensive midfielder who could be on the market this summer.

Moises Caicedo is one we nearly got over the line in January. He is clearly talented and at just 21, could become even better than Rice.

If West Ham stand firm on the Rice fee, Arsenal will look elsewhere for more reasonably priced alternatives. And Caicedo will be top of that list.

Martin Zubimendi is another who has been on our radar for a while.

He has a fairly similar profile as Rice, and would have been picked out by StatsDNA as an alternative.

Zubimendi has a €60m release. That is around £52m in real money. Less then half the price of a Declan Rice.

Arsenal had a sniff around Madrid’s Camavinga last summer. The Frenchman is currently in contract negotiations with the team.

With the arrival of Bellingham, and with Tchouaméni and Valverde in the squad, Madrid might decide to cash in on Camavinga. Especially if a big bid comes in.

Then you have a rawer option like Romeo Lavia.

Rice is clearly being bought in to replace Thomas Partey. But if a deal for the Englishman can not be made, one option could be to sign Lavia and have him playing back-up to Partey for a season.

Lavia is a raw talent who has performed well in a poor Southampton team. With their relegation nearly nailed on, you have to think Lavia will be on the move this summer.

Reports are Manchester City do have a buy back clause, but this is only from 2024.

In summary, the amount of defensive midfielders that could be available will drive down the price of Rice.


Rice wants to leave.
West Ham are not in a good negotiating position.
Little competition to create an auction.
Other options available.

I think Declan Rice will be ours for around £80million this summer.

Keenos