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Rice with no Caicedo for Arsenal

I am going to stick my neck on the line – Arsenal will sign Declan Rice this summer, but not Moises Caicedo.

The Rice deal is one that is very easy to make.

Declan Rice wants to join Arsenal, Arsenal want Declan Rice, and West Ham will not stand in his way if the right offer comes in.

West Ham would have been hoping that Rice would be subject of a bidding war. They would have hoped that Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich and both Manchester clubs would have all been chasing his signature. But Rice has indicated that he wants to stay in London.

With Chelsea seemingly ruling themselves out of the running (or Rice potentially making it clear he does not want to re-join his boyhood club who are currently in turmoil), that leaves Arsenal as his only logical destination.

All that is really left is for Arsenal and West Ham to agree on the price.

West Ham are reportedly demanding around £120m, Arsenal are at £80. Expect a deal to be done for around £100m, with around £80m upfront and £20m in add-ons.

To make it clear, I am not ITK, nor do I pretend to be. This is just where I think we are at.

That then brings me on to Caicedo.

Whilst Rice is driving the move to Arsenal, Caicedo seems a lot more flexible on his destination. And that means he will go to whoever pays the most – both in transfer fee and wages.

Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal are all in the running to sign the Brighton player. And if Arsenal secure Rice, the desperation of Man U and Chelsea to complete the Caicedo deal will increase.

Both Man U and Chelsea will need Caicedo more than what Arsenal will, and that will lead them to be willing to pay more – both to Brighton, the player, and his agents.

A valuation of around £100m has recently been floated about. My feeling is this figure has been floated out by Brighton to see if they get any bites. And with the way Chelsea have behaved around transfers in recent years who can blame them?

After nearly joining Arsenal in January, Caicedo signed a new deal. That deal came without a release clause. But reports are that there was a gentleman’s agreement between Caicedo and the club that he could leave if an offer for between £70-80m came in.

If Brighton reject an offer of this size, they will have a very unhappy player on their books. One who would feel he has been lied too. Promises broken will lead to a lack of motivation.

I have felt (and again, this is based on nothing but intuition) that Arsenal will look to spend £150m on two central midfielders. We have other positions (right back, attacking) to also improve and anything over that £150m will mean less spent elsewhere.

With Rice our number one target, what we have left for the second midfielder will be the very simple equation of: £150m – Rice fee.

If we can get Rice for £80m (we will not), that would have left £70m t try and attract Caicedo. A deal for both could have been done.

The £80+20m deal mentioned above will leave around £50m in the pot for Caicedo. And with Chelsea and Man U also chasing the Ecuadorian, it will be near impossible for Arsenal to drive that asking price down.

So where does this leave Arsenal?

Well we will still be buying two central midfielders. We will simply just “move on to the next one”. And as we discussed earlier in the week, there are a few options out there.

Leading the way as an alternative to Caicedo is probably Romeo Lavia.

Caicedo and Lavia do not have too dissimilar attributes – both are high energy, have great tactical awareness and a good range of passing.

When you look at the work load Caicedo, Lavia and Thomas Partey get through n 90 minutes, it is clear that the Arsenal man is the best of the 3. Lavia is the worst and Caicedo in the middle.

This should not be surprise as Partey is the oldest, and played for the best team, Lavia the youngest, and played for the worst, and Caicedo in the middle of both.

Their completion %age tells a similar story, but also different.

Again, the order is the same – Partey, Caicedo then Lavia. But Lavia is a lot closer to the paid than he was in the per 90 minutes comparison.

This shows that Lavia is not too far from the others, he just did “less of the good things”. Not a surprise when he played for Southampton who finished bottom.

These two graphs together highlight that Lavia, Caicedo and Partey share a lot of similar attributes. The feeling will be that playing in a better team, Caicedo would be closer to Partey’s output, and Lavia closer Caicedo’s.

Lavia was the only bright spark in Southampton’s failed relegation battle and it would be a surprise if he does not return to the Premier League.

Manchester City have a buy-back clause for £40m, but this does not come into play until 2024. Southampton will see any offer above £45m-50m as a good deal.

If we have to spend north of £100m to get Rice over the line, than Lavia is a realistic cheaper alternative than Caicedo.

Lavia certainly the rougher diamond of the two, but that has to be expected as he is two-years younger.

With Partey going no-where this summer, the drop in quality from Caicedo to Lavia should not be an issue. And you would expect with better coaching at Arsenal, that gap will close.

If it is Rice and no Caicedo, rice and Lavia could work out just as well.

Keenos

William Saliba contract risks delaying Arsenal defensive signings

The future of William Saliba will dictate what defensive reinforcements Arsenal bring in this summer.

We are looking at recruiting either a right back or central defender this summer.

The focus seems to be on a new right back – Ivan Fresneda and Sacha Boey the two most regularly linked.

I do not expect either of these two come straight into our first XI. But what both do is reinforce that right hand side.

We stumbled towards the end of this season because of both Saliba and Tomiyasu being out injured. The plan would have been to have White drop inside if Saliba was unavailable, and Tomiyasu playing right back. No-one had planned for both Saliba and Tomiyasu to be injured.

Signing either Fresneda or Boey gives us that extra right back. This free’s up Ben White to play centre back if Saliba is out injured – with Takehiro Tomiyasu replacing Kieran Tierney as the back up left back.

The squad would then look something like this:

Right backs: White, Tomiyasu, Fresneda/Boey, Walters
Centre backs: Saliba, Gabriel, White, Kiwior, Tomiyasu
Left backs: Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Kiwior, Sousa

Plenty of cover, with versatile players filling in where needed – not too unsimilar to Manchester City who have played John Stones at right back and Nathan ake at left back at times during this season (or is it now last season?)

Saliba’s contract is the issue…

If the Frenchman fails to agree a new deal, he will surely be sold this summer. His contract runs out in 2025.

And if Saliba leaves, this could completely change Arsenal’s defensive transfer plans.

Rather than buy a right back, a centre back becomes more essential. We will need to go out into the market and buy a like for like replacement for Saliba.

It would be very surprising if Rob Holding does not depart this summer. That leaves us with 3 specialist centre backs – Saliba, Gabriel and Kiwior – with White as 4th choice and Tomiyasu 5th.

If Saliba goes, we only have 2 specialist central defenders – Gabriel and Kiwior.

It is clear and obvious that someone will need to replace Saliba. And that someone will cost us a lot of money. Money which would hopefully come from the sale of Saliba.

But if the Saliba fee does not cover the recruitment of his replacement, money will have to be taken out of another pot – likely that put aside for a new right back.

This leaves us in a situation where we can not recruit a new right back until the Saliba situation is sorted.

Once Saliba signs on, we can go ahead and sign the extra full-back knowing that we do not need to spend any more money on the defence.

Likewise, if Saliba is sold, we can move on with our plans to sign a replacement.

There is the option of White being the like for like replacement for Saliba, and then a new right back comes in to cover & compete with Tomiyasu.

This could be the “easy option” for the club as it will allow them to continue with their current recruitment process (signing Fresneda or Boey), and White becoming a central defender who can play right back, rather than a right back that can play centre back.

The issue with this is Fresneda is still unexperienced, and Boey will be facing a huge step up from the Turkish League to the Premier League.

If White is to replace Saliba, we might be forced to look at a more experienced right back – Joao Cancelo for example.

White replacing Saliba also puts us back in the situation of only having 3 front line central defenders (assuming Rob Holding also leaves).

We would be going from White being 4th choice and Tomiyasu 5th choice, to White being 1st choice and Tomiyasu being 4th choice. That lack of depth would worry.

So even if White replaces Saliba, we would still need to go out and buy a new central defender. And this could impact what we spend on a new right back.

The hope is the Saliba contract will be signed before the end of this month, and we can then go ahead with our original plans of reinforcing the defence.

If the stand-off rolls into July, it risks delaying the addition of defensive reinforcements.

Keenos

Who will Arsenal turn to if they miss out on Declan Rice or Moises Caicedo

Before we crack on with todays thoughts, a public service announcement:

The deadline to renew your season ticket is 2pm TODAY (Wednesday, 7 June).

We are chasing two new central midfielders. This is not exactly breaking news.

Nor is is particularly groundbreaking to announce that our main two targets are Declan Rice and Moises Caicedo.

The pair have been long term targets of Arsenal, and Edu and Mikel Arteta will be hopeful that deals for both can be done. But it will not be easy.

There will be competition from at home and abroad for both – with the likes of Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea all keeping a tab on the pair.

Arsenal will do well to sign both, but there could be a multitude of reasons why we only get one – transfer fee being the main one.

We have other transfer business to do. West Ham are reportedly holding out for £120m for Rice, and Brighton recently leaked that they wanted £90m for Caicedo. That would be £210m for the pair.

Arsenal are likely to be looking at investing around £150m in the two new central midfielders – estimating Rice at £80-90m and Caicedo £60-70m. Anything above the £150m will take funds out of a new attacker and defender.

So if we do end up getting priced out of a move for both – or one of them decides a different club is the better option for their career – who are our options?

Before we list a load of players (we will soon!), the other options depends on who we will not sign.

Rice is seen as a Granit Xhaka replacement. Someone that can play in the 8 whilst covering for the 6. Caicedo is the opposite.

Caicedo will be bought as competition (and a long term replacement) for Partey in the 6, whilst also being able to cover the 8 if need be.

Alternative 8’s

Ilkay Gundogan – It is crazy that Manchester City might be letting Gundogan leave. But like with Xhaka and Arsenal, it might not be the clubs choice.

Gundogan is 33 in October, and City might be reluctant to offer him the 3-4 year deal he wants. Instead (like many clubs with older players), it might just be a 1 or 2 year deal on the table.

The German is a class player, and as Luka Modric has shown, when you have the fantastic vision, technique and reading of the game, age does not really matter. Gundogan could keep playing at the top level for another 3-4 years.

The big concern is we already have Thomas Partey (30-years-old) and Jorginho (31). 3 central midfielders over 30 just pushes that investment down the road a year or two. We need to be looking at longer term options.

Gabri Veiga – At the other end of the spectrum is 21-year-old Gabri Veiga.

The Spainard has had his breakthrough season, scoring twice in Celta Vigo’s final game of the season against Barcelona to keep his home town club up.

Veiga reminds me a lot of a young Aaron Ramsey; plenty of energy and goals, capable of pressing from the front and doing some great defensive work at the top end of the pitch.

But Veiga is someone with potential. He is certainly not at the level of Declan Rice or Ilkay Gundogan. Nor Granit Xhaka or Mason Mount. He will not be Premier League ready from day one.

A sensible option could be to sign Gundogan for that instant impact, and also sign Veiga for the long term. Dovetail the pair, slowly building Veiga up to take over that position long term in 1-2 seasons time.

Mason Mount – I have always liked Mason Mount. And there is a reason why the likes of Manchester United, Liverpool and Manchester City are looking at him.

He ticks a lot of those boxes to replace Xhaka on the left side of our central midfield – a hard worker with an eye for a pass and a goal. He would certainly be more of a threat in the final 3rd than Xhaka was.

I honestly think those Chelsea fans that do not rate him do so because he is English. We have seen similar with Jack Wilshere at Arsenal. Certain sections of fanbase take a dislike to home-grown players that match-going fans rate.

Mount bridges that gap between Gundogan and Veiga, in that at 24 he has the youth on his side, but also has the experience and leadership that comes with nearly 200 appearances for Chelsea.

Transfer fee and wages will be the huge stubmling block. If we are priced out of Declan Rice, Mount will not come much cheaper…

Conclusion – If we miss out on Declan Rice, the double signing of Gundogan and Veiga could be an alternative option. The pair would be affordable and give us the instant impact and leadership of Gundogan and the long-term option of Veiga.

Alternative 6’s

Martin Zubimendi – I probably could have put Zubimendi in either the 6 or 8. A bit like Rice and Caicedo, he can play in both positions. But throughout his career he has played more in the deeper role.

Zubimendi has a release clause around £50m depending on the exchange rate of the day. This would mean if we do end up paying £100m for Rice, and Brighton hold firm on their Caicedo price, Zubimendi allows you to recruit the two for £150m.

Born and bred in San Sebastian (the same as Mikel Arteta), Zubimendi must be tempted to play one more year for his home town club having been key in Real Sociedad qualifying for the Champions League for the frist time since 2013.

With his release clause, there is also the concern that another club might swoop him and snatch him whilst we are still trying to negotiate for Caicedo (or Rice).

And then if we go in too early for him, we might end up losing out on one of our top two targets if their price does drop towards the end of the window.

Eduardo Camavinga – Last season we were heavily linked with a move for Camavinga on loan.

The Frenchman has been fantastic for Real Madrid this season, having seen his position switch from defensive midfield to a similar inverted full back role that Olexsandr Zinchenko plays.

Recruiting Camavinga would give Arteta cover for both Partey in the middle and Zinchenko at full-back. With the Frenchman having the potential that he could be Partey’s replacement for the long-term.

Transfer fee (as always) will be the big issue. Real Madrid will surely demand the same as (or more than) what Brighton end up getting for Caicedo.

Romeo Lavia – If you were looking for a like-for-like alternative to Moises Caicedo, then Romeo Lavia will be high on the list.

Lavia was the only bright spark in Southampton’s failed relegation battle. He has the energy, tactical awareness and passing to become a superstar in that 6 role.

Manchester City have a buy-back clause for £40m, but this does not come into play until 2024. Southampton will see any offer above £45m as a good deal.

If we have to spend north of £100m to get Rice over the line, than Lavia is a realistic cheaper alternative than Caicedo.

Declan Rice – Yes, he is not yet an Arsenal player, but we are discussing what we could do if we only signed one of Rice or Caicedo. So if we got Rice but not Caicedo, he could be that option as the deeper 6.

Rice is comfortably the best defensive midfielder on this list, and only behind Rodri in the Premier League.

One solution could be that we utilise Rice in the deeper position, and then go out and sign someone like Gabri Veiga in that more advanced position.

Rice then either plays in the 6 or 8 depending on opponent and Thomas Partey’s fitness, with Veiga or Jorginho being the alternative option in both positions depending on where Rice is playing.

It would give us the option of (8/6) Rice/Parety, Rice/Jorginho or Veiga/Rice.

Conculsion – If we secure Declan Rice and not Caicedo, the decision on who else to sign will be dictated as to how Arteta wants the play the Englishman.

If he wants Rice as a dedicted 8, then Lavia or Zubimendi is the likely choice. If he is thinking Rice can play 6, then drop deeper if Partey is out, then Veiga comes into the equation.

Rice and Caicedo as a duo is clearly our ultimate transfer aim this summer. But we should not over pay for either and, as long as we get one of them, there are alternative options out there!

Finally, keep an eye on Veiga. We might be tempted to make a move even if we sign Rice and Caicedo if finances allow…

Keenos