Tag Archives: Arsenal

Arsenal were right to not offer Patrick Vieira a coaching role

This morning’s news is full of Patrick Vieira slamming Arsenal and Arsene Wenger.

We will ignore the fact that he rates Jose Mourinho as the best manager he played against. The one who influenced him this most. This stinks of Roy Keane rating Brian Clough above Alex Ferguson purely because of bitterness.

What is perhaps more of a discussion is whether he should be at Arsenal on the coaching side, rather than managing some tin pot team in New York?

On paper, many peoples theory is correct. The likes of Patrick Vieira, Tony Adams, Dennis Bergkamp, should all be at the club, coaching. That it is a disgrace that 3 legends are not at the club.

But lets look at it on an individual basis. Tony Adams failed as a coach and a manger. Dennis Bergkamp returned to his boyhood home town club to coach, and Vieira we will come onto later.

No player has a divine right to return to a club to coach. He must first and foremost prove himself to be a decent coach. Being a top player does not automatically make you a top coach.

By all means, if you want, come to the club to do your coaching badges, like Freddie Ljungberg has done. Take some youth sessions whilst doing your badges, and over time, prove yourself. A bit like the way a youngster has to progress from youths to senior team, proving himself at all times, a coach should too.

Steve Bould is another example of this. After retiring, he worked at the club with various youth sides for a few years before progressing through the under-18s and on to assistant manager.

The best manager around at the moment, Pep Guardiola, started off in the Barcelona B set up.

Some players are just not willing to do the work. They expect to join the club from day one, in the first team coaching set up. Or in Sol Campbell’s case, wants a Premier League managerial job without ever having coached, or even taken his coaching badges.

You have to be willing to work for it.

Alternatively, go to another club, like Tony Adams did.

If Arsenal do not have space for you in the current set up, go elsewhere. Go to West Ham. Go to Leyton Orient. Go to Portsmouth. Do a job there. Prove yourself there. Then return to Arsenal when the opportunity arrives.

Now of course, there is another argument that the more club legends the club has around the club, the better influence they have. Well at the club in recent years, Liam Bradt, Pat Rice, Steve Bould, Thierry Henry and Freddie Ljungberg have all got involved in coaching. Add in Robert Pires who is a club ambassador, that is a large group of legends who are in and around the club. It is not like we have no legends walking through London Colney or Hale End on a daily basis.

How many more do we need? I read talk about Adams, Lee Dixon, Martin Keown, Dennis Bergkamp, Gilberto, Patrick Vieira and more. What do you want us to do? Get rid of all the experienced, proven coaches, for a bunch of ex-players with little or no experience, just because they are ex-players?

We would end up with a coaching staff of 30-odd ex players, all contributing very little.

Yes, over at Ajax, a few years ago they scrapped their coaching system and bought in the likes of Bergkamp, Marc OVermars, Jaap Stam, Edwin van der Saar and more, but the Dutch league is very different to England. You can not afford to take that chance in the Premier League.

Look at the Manchester United side of the 2000s, how many of the 1990s legends did Alex Ferguson employ on the payroll – Ince, Hughes, Bruce and more. None.

Now onto specifically Patrick Vieira.

All I see is excuses from him. Moaning.

The comment that screams out to me first is that he “expected”  to be asked” to join Arsenal’s coaching set up.

This kind of follows the above thought line about proving yourself. Rather than expecting to be asked. Offer. Tell the club you want to do the badges, coach the under-7s. Do the hard hours. No one in this world should be expected to be asked without either proving themselves first, or showing a willingness to join.

Secondly, let’s look at his career from retiring as a player to coaching.

He retired at the age of 35 on 14th July 2011. The same day, City created the position of “football development executive” and offered it straight to him.

They basically created a job for Vieira to keep him at the club. Reports at the time were that it would be on a similar salary that he was earning at City as a player, approximately £40,000 a week.

The role was an easy one. If City were interested in a player, he would get involved, influencing the player to join the club, a bit like Zinedine Zidane was doing at Real Madrid. An easy role, no coaching involved.

Now of course, at Arsenal, we could have offered him a similar role. But look at that salary. It is crazy. City at the time had no world wide presence. They needed Vieira to try and raise this presence. There was not a similar role available at Arsenal.

Now why did Vieira take this position? Why on retiring was he not straight on the phone to Arsenal, asking to coach the under-7s, taking his coaching abdges, earning a couple of thousand a week.

Because of greed.

He took the easy, well paid job. You can not blame him for doing so. But then he can not blame him for Arsenal not offering him a role.

He walked into a (created) top job with little or no experience.

And then moving forward a few years, he started doing his badges, and became Manchester City’s new reserve team and Elite Development squad manager. If he wanted to be part of the Arsenal set up so much, why, when he decided to go into coaching, did he remain at Arsenal?

And then in 2015, he was in discussion with Newcastle United to become their new manager. He turned them down, and instead became the manager of New York City FC in the MLS. One of Manchester City’s money laundering clubs.

Another easy step sideways there for Vieira. Rather than challenge himself in the Premier League, he takes an easy job in America, where a club with the likes of Frank Lampard, Andrea Pirlo and David Villa will not exactly take much coaching.

He will clearly hope to sit out there for a few years, then return to Manchester City as manager. another easy job.

He comes across as a man who enjoys the status quo. The easy life. The easy job. Maybe if he wanted to join Arsenal, he should have come out of his comfort zone, taken a risk, gone for the hard job.

We demand the best players in the world. We should also be demanding the best coaches in the world. None of those who are not coaching at the club have proved that the club were wrong in passing up the opportunity to offer them a job.

In 2014, the club appointed Andries Jonker as the new academy manager. Vieira had been doing a similar job at Manchester City for around a year. So to sum up, let’s take the names off the CV.

Would you rather the club offer the role to a man who has 1 years experience in the position. Or someone who has been coaching and revamping youth set ups for club and country for 25 years, including for the likes of Barcelona and Wolfsburg.

It is no contest. Jonker was the better choice. He was superior than Vieira.

Take sentiment out of your decision making. We want the best.

Keenos

Kenny Sansom -Seek Help, Not Publicity

Why Kenny? Why?

This morning on Twitter, Arsenal legend Kenny Sansom announced that he will be on the Jeremy Kyle show for a ‘celebrity intervention’ special”.

Now for people of a certain generation, Kenny Sansom is their hero. A true Arsenal legend. They grew up watching him.

394 games over an 8 year period, he has a place in most Arsenal fans heart, and many Arsenal fans all time XI.

But we are at a crossroads again with Kenny, and it once again gives me mixed feelings.

In 2013, he sold himself to the Sun on Sunday. It was their first paper on their relaunch after the News of the World phone hacking scandal. And Kenny was their world exclusive front page news.

“I just don’t want to live” he was quoted as saying. He went on to discuss how he had lost everything. His wife, his money, his family.

It was a sad interview highlighting the fall of a great.

At the time, whilst I felt for the man, alcoholism is an awful disease that has taken members of my family, I felt that he was also going about it the wrong way. Selling his story to the gutter press rather than seeking help. I questioned how much money he got for the interview, how much help The Sun would give him, and whether is payment would go straight behind the bar in a pub.

Low and behold, 2 years later, he was in the papers again.PAY-Kenny-Sansom

Despite rehab, he was pictured on a park bench swigging from a bottle of win.

Recent reports say that Kenny is in good health.

His appearance today on the Jeremy Kyle show stinks of attention seeking. Another easy pay day.

If he needs help, he should seek it in private. He has family, he has friend. The club have bailed him out numerous times. I am sure Tony Adams Sporting Chance Clinic would be more than willing to lend a hand.

What he should not be doing is selling his should again. Going on a programme like the Jeremy Kyle Show. It is gutter. He should not stoop that low.

Also, a final thought, recently I saw him at a pub for a book signing. Really? Surely we (and he)should be more responsible then this? Inviting an alcoholic to a pub…

Kenny, you do not need to behave in this way.

Seek Help, Not Publicity

Sporting Chance Clinic
Alcoholics Anonymous

Keenos.

Two former right backs set for Arsenal return?

As Mathieu Debuchy edge’s closers to a temporary exit from Arsenal, the talk has now turned to “Will Arsenal get in a replacement.” And with his exit, and other news going on in the footballing world, people, and journalists, and bloggers, and Tweeters alike are putting a lot of 2’s together with a lot of other 2’s in the hope that they come up with a 4.

First of all, we have the situation over at West Ham (we’ve stolen your song) involving Carl Jenkinson.

He seems to have fallen out of favour over in East London, starting just 2 of their last 8 games. With West Ham recently signing Sam Bryam for £3.7million from Leeds, his days are certainly numbered.

There has been a lot of talk that Arsenal might look to break his season long loan deal with the Hammers, bringing him back to provide the back up to Hector Bellerin. But whether this is feasible is unknown.

It is very rare that a season long loan deal is broken, especially when money is involved. West Ham paid £2million for the loan deal. I am sure (but not 100% sure) that if a fee is involved, the deal can not be broken. And if it can be, it would involve Arsenal having to pay back some of the loan fee. I just can not see Arsenal doing this.

Alongside the Jenkinson conundrum, there are reports that West Ham did not really want Bryam until the summer, and only moved now due to Everton sniffing around. There is a chance he could be loaned back to Leeds for the rest of the season, before replacing Jenkinson in the first team squad for 2016/17.

The likelihood is that Jenkinson will not return.

The second option that people seem to be discussing is the return of an Arsenal legend. One of the greatest of all time. Perhaps THE greatest of all time.

Emmanuel Eboue.

Before I start, why does Eboue not yet have a statue? In fact, he deserves more than that, Arsenal should rip up the stadium naming deal, and change it to the Emmanuel Eboue Stadium.

But in all seriousness, news of a return of Eboue to Arsenal has kind of come out of nowhere.

The last anyone knew of him, he was still getting up to high jinks at Galatasaray.

As it turns out, his last appearance for the horrible Turks was on the 19th April 2014.

Having returned to the club for pre-season training for the 2014/15 season, he was informed that he would not be playing.

“I came back for training and I was told I would not be playing,” Eboue was quoted as saying in The Sun “The president told the manager at the time not to pick me.”

As Galatasaray’s number of foreign player limit was full, he played the entire season for the under 21s and his contract recently expired with the club.

He has been quoted as saying as he would love to come back to Arsenal.”

That’s all well and good, but whether he would be wanted back is another story.

Discarded by the club in favour of Bacary Sagna in 2011, there would be question marks over his fitness having not played a competitive game in 18 months.

A possible scenario could be for him to return to the club just to train and get his fitness back up to standard, like so many before him have done. And then maybe, just maybe, if we are desperate, him to sign on a short term contract till the end of the season.

As far as I know (but I reserve the right to be wrong), as he is on a free transfer, he can be signed outside of the transfer window. But I am not sure where it stands with Premier League registrations.

At 32, he certainly would not have a long term future at the club. Just until this summer if signed. With Jenkinson returning for next season.

 

Personally, I can not see either of the two deals happening. If Debuchy does go, Calum Chambers has the ability to step up and be the second choice right back. That is the route I imagine the club will go.

Then again, there have been reports that the club are looking to loan out Chambers – possibly back to Southampton – for the rest of the season. That would leave us short. Coupled with the fact that Debuchy has not yet gone, it could be that Arsenal are awaiting to get in a replacement for the Frenchman before letting anyway leave. Whether that is Eboue returning, or Jenkinson’s loan deal breaking, who knows?

Whilst I am thinking about full back’s, I watched the Leicester game last night and was highly impressed by young Ben Chilwell. He also impressed me in the first game against Spurs.

Just 19, he looks to have a bright future ahead. Without attempting to hype him up too much (something which Arsenal fans, and football fans in general tend to do) as last night was his first home start for the club, he is clearly a player.

Arsenal should maybe take a risk on him. Sign him now whilst he is a lot cheaper than he could be in 18 months time. Look at Luke Shaw (yes I know he is now injured). Everyone knew about him 18 months before Manchester United signed him. Sides dithered, and he ended up costing around £30million.

The opposite is Dele Alli. Another talented youngster. Spurs jumped in early and snapped him up for £5million. He is not worth double that, maybe even treble, at least. Sometimes you need to take the risk.

Just 19, with him and Bellerin, Arsenal would have their full backs for the next decade.

Of course, Monreal has just signed a new 3 and a half year contract with the club. By the time that ends, he will be 33. Chilwell will be just 22.

A scenario I can easily see happening is Arsenal signing the youngster, leaving him at Leicester for the next 18 months to continue his development, before he returns in 2017 to compete with Monreal for first choice right back.

So there we have my predicitions.

No right back will be signed.

A left back will come in.

Have a good one all!

Keenos

shop pic