How Arsenal’s Stadium would look with safe standing

What began as me messing about on paint to see how Arsenal should shift around the seating has turned into a little afternoon read for those commuting back. This might especially be needed if, like me, you have to go through Vauxhall on that journey. Good luck.

Recently Celtic have announced they will go ahead with plans for Safe Standing next season. The natural thought of this was “If it happens in Scotland it is only time until it happens in England.” Especially as the removal of standing in football ground was based on the Taylor Report, which came out of the Hillsborough disaster. The recent inquest announced fans were not to blame. Therefore making the Taylor reports direction on standing in grounds invalid.

So I created a Safe Standing area at Arsenal’s Stadium.

Blocks 6 – 11.

Block 6 is where RedAction attempted to get a lot of like minded fans to pick their season ticket in when the move first happened. The idea being it would create a bit of a singing section (cringe) at the new stadium.

To some part it worked. Most of the noise starts either from block 6, or block 11. In block 6 they already rarely sit down.

In fact, behind the goals from block 6 – 11 fans rarely sit down these days. A safe standing section seems to already be nearly in place. I sit block 11 and have certainly noticed over the last 2 seasons that stewards are a little less Nazi-like when it comes to standing in block 11. Stand in block 12 though and they are on you.

So in my idea of a perfect stadium setting, blocks 6 through to 11 become safe standing. Easily implementing the rail seat technology used in Germany. These area’s would remain season ticket only – unless bought on the ticket exchange. The amount of people in these area’s would not increase. Although I am sure a few would sneak there way in to stand with their pal, like they already often do in block 6.

That way, we have safe standing, with enough space to be comfortable, and the seating in place for European games, where standing is still frowned upon by UEFA.

But what if you do not want to stand? I hear you ask? Well it will be a simple procedure.

When the season ticket renewals come out, those in that area are explained that from the next season, there seat will be standing. If they wish to renew, they need to do nothing. If they do not wish to stand, they need to note that in the renewal, and they will be re-seated, alongside any corresponding seat numbers they indicate in the renewal. IE so they recent people who already sit next to each other.

Whilst this is happening, in the other renewals for those outside of the safe standing area, they also have an option. There option is that if a place comes available, do they want to move their seat to safe standing.

Answer yes, they get added to a waiting list for the safe standing area. Now in the first season, there will be plenty in the safe standing area who wish to be reseated, and plenty in the lower tier who wish to be in the safe standing, It should not be that had to reseat those who do not wish to stand into other parts of the lower tier, alongside who they currently sit with.

Everyone’s happy.

As the discussion went further in my head, other issues arose.

  • Reclaim the Clockend
  • Family Enclosure
  • Young Guns Enclosure
  • Cannon Club

Firstly let me address blocks 12-19. these are currently season ticker holders seats, and will remain so. The only change being if people from those seats indicate a wish to move to the safe standing. There places replaced by people who wish to not be in the safe standing zone.

20 – 23 are away fans. With 23 becoming general sale if we play a rubbish club like WBA who bring barely 1,000 and return more than half their tickets.

Reclaim the Clock Endhas been a movement for a while now. People who previously sat in the Clock End Highbury wishing to return to the Clock End Ashburton. Currently taken up by general sale and the Young Guns Enclosure.

This will never happen for 3 reasons.

  1. A lot of stadiums now seat kids next to the away end to reduce tensions. The idea being that a bunch of kids is easier to steward than 500 pissed up men goading each other. And it is true. At Cardiff, once a volatile atmosphere at Ninian Park, you now have kids next to both ends of the away fans in the new stadium. It takes the bite out of the area. I do not disagree with it, but can also can not see it changing
  2. At Highbury, when we played a cup game, the away team had the whole Clock End. All season ticket holders than had to be relocated throughout the stadium. This was much to the annoyance to the rank and file regulars. When we moved, high on the agenda was not having to move season ticket holders. So a decision was made that 24 & 25 would be general admission. That way for an FA Cup game, no one gets moved. I agree with this.
  3. With safe standing, those who want a return to the Clock End surely get their wish in the North Bank

So block 24 remains as is, general sale, and block 25 also remains as the Young Guns Enclosure / General Sale, with the club pushing the Young Guns Enclosure more and instructing the stewards in the area that they are their to ensure safety, not police. No need for lines of them kettling and restricting the Young Guns.

Skipping blocks 26 – 30 for now, we come to 31. 32 & 1. These remain the same. For the weirdos who want to sit behind the dug out, wearing fluorescent green clothing. As you were lads.

Blocks 2, 3 and 4 becomes the new family enclosure. Why move the family enclosure?

When I was a kid, I loved watching the team warm up. All kids do. The family enclosure should be on the side of the pitch the team warm up on. Also, in front of those blocks the subs warm up. Youngsters will love it. We need to think of all fans. I would also have these 3 blocks as no single cannon club tickets. IE if you are not going with a JG but are Cannon Club, you do not sit here.

I remember back at Highbury. The family enclosure was in the East Stand. When you became a Cannon Club member, unless you were buying a ticket with a Junior Gunner, you got your tickets in the West Stand, next to the away fans. It felt like a kind of promotion.

In the same thinking, block 5 would then become a Cannon Club block. With Cannon Club members who are not with a Junior Gunner. It is a step closer to the safe standing section, a step closer to adulthood.

But now we have blocks 2 – 5 where fans have been displaced. These basically go to where the family enclosure currently is. Blocks 26 – 30. Within these blocks, you take those who were in blocks 2 – 5 (it is an identical view) as well as the over fill from those who do not want to be in the safe standing and require relocating.

Club level remains wankers.

Upper Tier remains as is, unless more safe standing places arise and they wish to move down.

So my view of how the stadium should look (using paint):

Arsenal stadium

Thoughts?

Keenos

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8 thoughts on “How Arsenal’s Stadium would look with safe standing

  1. porter

    If it won’t increase capacity why bother , all you are doing really is making it easier for people to move within the stadium to the cheaper north bank lower area . Perhaps like Sunderland Newcastle and Camp Nou the away support could be put upstairs in the gods and apart from upsetting them all with more expensive seats it would free up the the area for all the disenfranchised clock enders.

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    1. keenosafc Post author

      So we can stand? With the people being able to move seats over a summer, you would return to mates standing next to mates. Instant atmosphere. Not everything is about getting more fans through the gates and therefore more money for the owners…

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      1. porter

        You say that you are in 11 , I am in 10 and we both stand anyway . So is it that your lonely or just that you haven’t got to know the people around you.

  2. Atid

    If we were to have safe standing, thus removing the surf boards, sorry seats we currently sit on, surely we could increase the capacity in those areas, by replacing smaller safe standing seats. Thus meaning we could increase the capacity in those blocks and reduce the cost of tickets?

    I would have been all for this 10/15 years ago, but now at my age the old bones need a seat, but even in the cheaper seating areas there is no need to have such big seats, even the largest people I know can get 3 people to every two seats. How much room does one need for 90 minutes?

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  3. Simon

    It may create an atmosphere cause lets be honest we could really do with it. we have the worst home support in the premiership

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  4. Marcin

    A bit of a belated reply but the RedAction area is actually blocks 5 & 6. In any case, if safe standing were to be implemented I’d simply convert blocks 5-12 into safe standing areas & leave the rest of the stadium as it is. No one in blocks 5 or 6 ever sits anyway (we’ve not been asked to by any stewards since about halfway through the 2nd season at The Emirates) & because of this lots of people already invite friends to come from other areas of the ground to stand in our blocks. Replacing the seats with safe barriers that can also convert to low profile seating would actually make it safer for our area to stand than it currently is with less chance of injury celebrating goals etc. If the entire end of the ground was able to replicate the additional numbers of people already standing in blocks 5 & 6 in some rows I would estimate the club could safely increase attendance in blocks 5-12 by 20-25% giving an overall increase from 9000 to around 11000. The only other sensible measure I’d implement would be to install ticket readers at the entrance to the blocks themselves so that there would never be a dangerous increase of even more people who were not supposed to have access to this end flooding into the area. Overall we might only be talking about a total increase in attendance of 60000 to 62000 but the increase in atmosphere would probably be much more significant. Perhaps if the safe standing conversion was successful in the North end was successful the club would consider adding a limited section of 4 blocks of so in the Clock end later.

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  5. John Raymond

    I feel that there is also a question of aesthetics here- how do you make adjustments to the stadium without it becoming a right dog’s dinner? That is, lots of signeage and “special areas” like some glorified Leyton Orient. As time goes by, I wish more and more we had taken the 80,000 Kings Cross option.

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    1. keenosafc Post author

      There will not be a problem with aesthetics. You remove the current seats and replace them with rail seats. Easy really.

      As for Kings Cross, a key factor in the move was keeping the club in Islington. The site we looked at in Kings Cross was in Camden. And the site would have been fraught with problems, such as we would not have been able to begin construction until after the St Pancras Eurostar terminal was completed. This happened in 2007. This terminal has also eaten up a lot of the land that a stadium would have sat on, and the terminal would have got planning priority over a football stadium.

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