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Arsene right to reject Arsenal legend

132Imagine Starting a job. You are not very experienced at the job. And you are in training. It is a part time role so you work a second job alongside it.

After your training, you are ready to move on to the next level. A promotion of sorts. Another 2 years of training. But this time you have to go full time.

You knock on your managers door, go in, ask him if you can remain part time, as you do not want to give up your second job. This despite your first job needing full time commitment. What will you boss say? Probably tell you to F off.

And that is what has happened with Thierry Henry.

He is in training to become a fully qualified coach. Arsenal and Arsene have supported him so far. But the next stage needed some commitment from Henry. It needed Henry to give up his job at Sky. To show that he was fully committed to the under 18 team and to be a full time coach.

Henry turned it down. He wanted to change the terms. And Wenger did the right thing not bowing down to his demands.

This morning the club will get a lot of criticism from fans who just do not really understand. They will read an inflammatory, borderline libellous article by The Telegraph.

I will come onto the article in a bit.

But I fully support Arsenal’s stance on the matter.

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And that is what Henry is doing. Treating coaching like a hobby. Something to do with his spare time. Something to keep him relevant perhaps? Does he really want to become a coach? A manager? If he did, show the commitment, leave Sky. Take up a full time position.

Instead he wants to split the two.

So what happens on a mid week game? Or a Champions League game (do they still have the Champions League?) where Henry would be missing from training 2 days a week.

And what happens when a game clashes with his Sky duties. What takes precedent? Clearly he has indicated Sky does. So Henry does not turn up for the game. At the extreme, imagine if Arsene Wenger had a job with French TV, so was unable to be on the touchline for games?

Henry offered to be assistant to Kwame Ampadu. Again, the extreme, imagine if Steve Bould was unable to be on the touchline for Saturday evening games as he had to work his second job in a Weatherpoons in Stoke?

It happens at all levels of football.

One of my work colleagues daughter plays football (she is about 13). Her sides manager was relieved of his duties over the summer. The reason being was that his daughter had been recruited by a better club, and, understandably, he wants to watch her play. This meant he could not be there on the touchline on game day. He offered to coach the girls twice a week, mid-week, but on a Saturday he would not be anywhere to be seen.

This was deemed unacceptable by the parents of the other children. They did not want a part time coach. They did not want someone who was not fully committed to their girls. And he was told he would not be managing the girls next season.

As for The Telegraph article. It is a load of Bull. Where to start.

“Sources around Arsenal believe Wenger does not want anybody at the club’s London Colney training ground who may be prepared to challenge him or be seen as a possible threat to his position in the future.”

Who is your source? Where is your quote? Or is your source Twitter rumours?

Vieira was not allowed a senior role at Arsenal under Wenger even though he did not have any other commitments…Vieira accepted a youth development role at Manchester City.”

Again, another miss truth. Patrick Vieira was a Manchester City player when he was encouraged to retire with a year left on his contract. He took a job at Manchester City on the same terms as his player contract. Something that Arsenal would have been ludicrous to match.

“It is still a source of embarrassment to many people who work at Arsenal that Vieira has played a key role in City becoming a fierce rival of the Gunners.”

Is it really? Who is your source? Where is your quote? Or is your source Twitter rumours?

“Wenger stalled over how he could fit Arteta into his staff, allowing Guardiola to make him a first-team coach.”

This is the first I have heard of this. From what it looked like, Arteta had worked under Wenger for 5 years, and wanted to continue his development under a different manager, to make himself a more rounded coach.

It was only natural that Guardiola would be his choice. A great coach, like Wenger, and Guardiola needed someone in his set up who he has known for 2 decades and knows the English game. It was not a case of Arsenal rejecting Arteta, but Arteta moving to continue his development.

Bergkamp turned down an offer to scout.”

Anyone who has read Dennis Bergkamp’s autobiography will know that once his playing days were over, he planned to return to Ajax to coach. His beyond club whom he joined at 11 years old. To continue the work of his idol, Johan Cruyff. Are we really criticising Arsene Wenger or Arsenal for a player wanting to return home?

“…Overmars also went back to Holland.”

So another former Ajax player went home to coach Ajax. Overmars spent 5 years at the Dutch club. He spent 3 at Arsenal before forcing through a move to Barcelona. Did Overmars reject us? Did we reject him? Or was there simply no interest from either party?

It feels at this point they are trying to fill out an article by searching for players who are coaching at other clubs who were not offered a job by Arsene Wenger.

Steve Bruce never coached at Manchester United. Neither did Bryan Robson. Or Roy Keane. Or Paul Ince. Was an article ever written about Sir Alex Ferguson not giving a chance to former players?

Ryan Giggs and Manchester United have just parted ways. Where is the articles slamming Jose Mourinho for letting a club legend leave?

It is starting to feel like an agenda.

“Wenger has allowed a number of his old players back to Arsenal in temporary roles and working with the junior teams, but only former defender Steve Bould has managed to hold down a long-term position in his backroom staff.”

A great player does not make a great coach. That is fact. Look at Tony Adams as an example.

There are many former players currently in the club set up. One is Ryan Garry.

Garry is a former academy graduate who was forced to retire at 27 due to a knee injury. He is currently the clubs under-13 head coach. He is well thought of within the club. Working his way up. Showing commitment. Doing his badges.

Garry is a perfect example of a player who has had an average career, but could go on to be a top manager. And he is a former player.

Arsenal wanted commitment from Henry. Henry did not show that commitment to the club. Henry is not bigger than Arsenal, and he has now learnt that.

I will leave the last words to friend of the site @AFC_Glen:

Keenos
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Is Arsene Wenger one of the GREATEST ever managers?

132So somehow GC and Keenos got into a debate on twitter which spilled over onto whatsapp and will spill over into the pub next season on just if Wenger is one of the all-time greatest managers in world football. With the restriction of 140 characters, neither could exactly get their point across fully, so a blog was born.arsenal77_2741542a

Wenger is not one of the greatest – by GC

Well my point initially was quite simple, no manager can be classed as one of the greatest ever unless they have won all the big domestic (title + FA Cup) and European trophies.

It’s very easy in this debate to try and distract from Wenger and start comparing to others from different era’s who may or may not be considered one of the greatest, so I’m going to stick to a bit of opinion and the facts on Wenger.

Let’s clarify the difference between great and greatest.

Firstly Wenger is a great manager, well his 1st 10 years at ours were great, FA cups, League titles, doubles and unbeaten season the blot being one thing, the European cup.

Just over 10years ago 100,000 (est) Arsenal fans took over Paris in probably the greatest ever away travelling support from any club in any country, that was the only Euro cup final Wenger has got us into and it ended with heartbreak. Since then its been a long run of getting knocked out at the last 16 stage.

There is also no denying Wenger built one of the greatest ever Arsenal sides, he added Vieira, Henry, Pires, Freddie (all world class in there prime) to George Graham’s famous back 5 who were the greatest ever defensive unit in English maybe European football ever, only rival there is the famous Milan back 4. But even with Bergkamp, one of the greatest ever forwards, Wenger hasn’t win the big ear’d one in 18 attempts.

So is Wenger one of the greats in the English game?

Despite never winning the league cup (losing 2 finals), no-one has finished in the top 4 for so many years running, no-one has won as many FA Cups and of course no modern day side has gone unbeaten in the league for a season or gone 49 games unbeaten. But too often when Wenger was in his prime and before ‘he built a new ground’ we finished 2nd in a 2 horse race to Man United who at the time were not only beating Wenger for trophies domesticity they also won the European cup.

Wenger also has the record of finishing 2nd in the league more times than any other Arsenal manager and has the longest run of not winning any trophies of any manager of The Arsenal.

Is Arsene Wenger great ? YES
Is he one of Arsenals greatest ? YES
Is he one of the greatest managers in world football? NO

The greatest of any era not only win the big prizes domesticity but then go on to win the biggest prize in Europe and then World Club Cup, and sadly Wenger has not done this.

Wenger is one of the greatest – by Keenos

Arsene Wenger is one of the greatest of all time.

When he came to England in October 1996, he transformed the English game in a way that changed coaching, fitness, training, scouting and diet methods forever. He led, the rest of England followed.

Yes, he might have now fallen behind others, but what he did in those first 10 years in English football has shaped how clubs now run now.

Wenger the Failed Gambler III

Monday I went rogue and wrote a blog for another site (shhhh, don’t tell GC!). It was about every Arsenal fan’s current favourite subject, Arsene Wenger. The piece was about how almost every gamble by Arsene Wenger had failed. It can be found be read over on You Are My Arsenal.

The reason I published it for them rather than She Wore is I recalled writing a blog very similar for this site, and did not want to be repeating myself. After a bit of research, I discovered that my original blog, titled Wenger the failed gambler was actually published on 2nd December 2012 when this blog used to be hosted on the FansOnline network.

A couple of years ago, after 5 years without a trophy, I wrote a blog for this site calling for Wenger to end ‘The Experiment.’ That he had to take a step back and admit ‘The Experiment’ had failed. ‘The Experiment’ of course was trying to build a title winning team using as little funds as possible, relying on a group of 20-something growing together as a team, as a unit to become champions.

It was always going to be a tough experiment. One so close to working. You feel were it not for greedy players leaving (Adebayor, Nasri) and others getting frustrated at lack of success (Cesc, Van Persie) we might well have challenged for the title. Probably last year. Almost certainly this. But we move on, Wenger stopped the experiment and bought in established players. Mertersacker. Giroud. Cazorla. Arteta. However, with the experiment over, Wenger seemingly embarked on a new game this summer. This time, he embarked on ‘The Gamble.’

Over the years, Arsene Wenger has always gambled in the transfer market. And more often than not, especially in the early years;

Gamble – Signing a young Frenchman from PSG for 500k to replace legend Ian Wright

Gamble – Signing & building the team round Patrick Vieira, plucked from AC Milan’s reserves

Gamble – Signing a blonde haired porn star average CB & playing him CM

Gamble – Signing an injury ravaged Marc Overmars when many had written him off

Gamble – Signing a Frenchman struggling on the wing for Juventus to turn into the World’s best striker

Gamble – Signing the ageless Kanu, who had just had heart surgery

There are many, many more examples of gamble’s Wenger took during his early years. Young players signed. Written off players signed. Talented but struggling players signed. Almost every transfer in his early days was a massive gamble. Almost every gamble in his early days paid off.

However, this summer, his gambling failed. Whereas previously, all his gambles were about signing players, this summer, his gambles were about not signing them. Gambles which many said, even at the time, he was wrong to take. These gambles have left us where we are today. A squad short on both quality and quantity

 The Goalkeeper Gamble

The last 5 weeks of last season, Wojciech Szczesny did not train and played through pain killers. With Euro 2012 in the summer, it mean the young goalkeeper would not get the time or assistance to get fit for the beginning of the season. His breakdown during the Sunderland game, failed comeback v Southampton has led our number one to play just 6 from a possible 22 games this season.

An injury to Szczesny would’ve been not so bad had Lukasz Fabianski not played just 1 pre-season game, and, like Szczesny, was still suffering from an injury suffered the season before.

This left us with a realistic possibility of starting the season without our number 1 & number 2 keepers. This would leave us short. Without even opening the discussion on whether these guys are good enough. Wenger gambled. Why did he not sign Julio Cesar from Inter Milan, who ended up going to QPR in a deal which reminded me of when Van Der Saar went to Fulham. The old Wenger would’ve taken a gamble on a talented, yet out of favour player.

Or more short term options; Alan McGregor from Glasgow Rangers who was also available on a free after The Gers tax affairs. Or Jussi Jääskeläinen from Bolton. Paddy Kenny from QPR. All decent, whilst not World Class, keepers who could’ve done a job till Szczesny got back, who would not of cost much and I am sure would’ve jumped at a chance to join us.

What we ended up with was Vito Mannone. Who whilst did his best, is never going to be good enough, and our defence looked shaky in front of him.

Wenger gambled on the goalkeeping position, and that gamble did not pay off.

 The Left Back Gamble

Kieran Gibbs is a talented player. He has it all to become a superstar. Strong, quick, tall, can defend & can attack. But he has glass ankles. He can not be relied upon to play 38 league games. And as the only left back in the squad (I refuse to acknowledge Andre Santos as a footballer, let along a fullback) it was always going to be a gamble by not buying someone to either play ahead of him (Baines) or back him up (Anyone). 

Manchester United, sitting with only 1 LB having let Fabio go out on loan, went and signed Alex Butner. A decent option to back up Evra. Wenger gambled. He decided that in Thomas Vermaelen we had sufficient cover. A gamble, which once more, collapsed. As suspected, Gibbs got his usual injury. As suspected, Vermaelen moved out to LB and, already being in shocking form, deteriorated even more.

Wenger gambled on the fitness of Gibbs and the cover of Vermaelen. Both gambles did not pay off

 The Midfield Gamble

Sell Alex Song. Not a massive gamble. Put faith in Diaby’s fitness. Not only a massive gamble. A stupid one. It would be like putting £1 million on Spurs to win the league. Your sanity should be questioned.

I mentioned earlier that 90s Wenger would have taken a risk on Julio Cesar, a talented yet troubled player. (90’s Wenger would have certainly taken a risk on Yann M’Vila. A talented, yet troubled youngster. Wenger would of backed himself to assist him fulfilling his potential. Maybe it is the stab in the back by Nasri & Van Persie. 2 troubled youngsters who Wenger supported, that made Wenger not have the heart to open up to another one. Stabbed too often in the back by those of ‘The Experiment’ has clearly left a scar, one potentially affecting his judgement when it comes to similar attitude players.

The signing of Yann M’Vila was a gamble Wenger should of taken. Instead, Wenger gambled on Diaby’s fitness. Who whilst his performance v Liverpool showed what he could do if fit, the problem is he was never going to be fit. I am never going to be 100m Olympic Champion. Diaby is never going to be fully fit. That is the realism for it. We all knew it. Wenger should’ve known it. But he gambled. And the gamble failed.

Due to a lack of midfield giant, the midfield is now imbalanced (more on this next time) and, like when Michu picked up the ball for Swansea’s first goal yesterday, it leaves the defence horribly exposed. In Makelele & Gilberto, the importance of having a man between the defence and midfield was highlighted. The likes of Chelsea (Mikel & Ramires), Manchester City (De Jong/Garcia & Barry) and even Spain (Alonso & Busquets) started to play with 2. We went into this season without a proper one. With 2 men ‘capable’ of doing the job (Diaby & Arteta) but the most important one (Diaby) having the injury problems. It has left us exposed.

He chose not to go for Marouane Fellaini. He pulled out of the done deal that was Nuri Sahin. He decided that M’Vila’s personal problems weren’t worth working through.

Wenger gambled on Diaby’s fitness. The gamble has not paid off.

 The Striker Gamble

Olivier Giroud was bought to replace Marouane Chamakh. To be a plan B. A physical presence with technique. He was bought to be back up for Robin Van Persie. What he was not bought for was to be Van Persie’s replacement. When Robin left, Wenger took yet another gamble. He gambled that Giroud would be good enough to fill the Dutchman’s boots.

Giroud – 14 games, 4 goals

Van Persie – 15 games, 10 goals

Whilst Giroud has done a job. He clearly is not a replacement for Robin Van Persie. His performances have been befitting of a 2nd choice striker. Wenger’s judgement failed him again. When Van Persie left, Wenger should of gone straight out and bought a top class replacement. Whether this was Llorente. Cavani. Or A N Other. Failing to do this meant another failed gamble.

Wenger has made 2 gambles on striker position. Once he decided that Olivier Giroud was going to be number one, he then gambled that Podolski/Gervinho would make adequate cover as the number 2 striker. The goalless and chanceless game v Swansea highlights that not only should neither play down the middle, but playing them both on the pitch at the same time is often akin to playing 9 men. When Wenger made the decision to make Giroud number 1, he should of bought in some decent back up.

Kevin Mirallas, Steven Fletcher, Dimitar Berbatov. 3 players who moved after the Van Persie deal went through. 3 players who could of added strength behind Giroud. Could have backed him up. 2 established Premiership strikers. 1 talented European. Then you have Jermaine Defoe. He was looking for a way out at Spurs. Would he of improved us? Of course. Imagine him and Giroud up top together. He would have anticipated every knock down that no one else gets near.

Why did we not go for one of the above 4, or any other striker, to provide competition, back up, or whatever to Olivier Giroud. Again, he gambled. Again, he made the wrong decision.

Wenger gambled that Giroud would come good. Not just come good as a back up striker, but come good as a first choice striker. This gamble did not pay off.

Wenger gambled that Gervinho & Podolski could provide back up for Giroud. For the 2nd time, the gamble did not pay off.

 

Throughout all of this, I have been thinking, has Wenger just been unlucky, or should we now seriously be questioning his judgement? For me, for the first time, I am questioning his judgement. These were gambles that we all saw would not pay off. Gambling of fitness of players who weren’t fit is criminal. His lack of judgement rightly opens him up to criticism.

The question is, does Wenger still have time saved up in the ‘Good Faith Bank’ to make right his failed gambles, or did he use up all that time in the failed experiment?

Whilst I might look back at some of the options and laugh, they have not exactly proved Wenger wrong, it has been proved that the gamble Wenger took did not work. 4 years on from that blog and we are still talking about Wenger’s gambles not paying off.

It is time the board took a gamble and replaced Arsene Wenger.

Keenos