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Tottenham sell North London Derby tickets for 10 times face value

Legal touting has been in football for a while now.

Arsenal have had a relationship with Thomas Cook for many a year. what happens is the club sell the travel agent tickets for games. Thomas Cook then package them up as a holiday deal, including flights (if required) and hotels.

The idea being that you can be a fan in America, visit London, and be guaranteed a ticket.

I am off to Antigua at the end of January for the cricket. I have bought flights, hotel and tickets for all 5 days of the test through a similar company as a package deal. Sport tourism is a huge market.

But Spurs have taken it to the next level by offering these sort of packages direct.

Recently many Tottenham fans received the below Email:

Tickets for the North London Derby, like all away tickets, are capped at £30 (Arsenal then deduct a further £4 for fans)

So Spurs are selling a £30 ticket for £298 (£249+VAT). That is 10 times face value.

Taking into account they have already done their fans over with the new stadium, selling season tickets when they knew it would not be complete, this is another show of greed by the club.

To justify the cost, you get:

  • Breakfast with some Spurs legends (probably Micky Hazard and Graham Roberts)
  • 10% discount in the club shop (encouraging you to spend even more money
  • Travel to the game (probably in Micky Hazard’s cab)
  • Match tickets
  • Optional return travel

The breakfast will be your bog standard full English. The ones you pay £8 for in a hotel. Taxi fair for the 4m journey is around £16. Plus the ticket, the total cost to Spurs is £54 (or £70 if you want to return to Tottenham High Street).

So fans are paying an additional £244 on top of the basic cost to have legends sit with them at breakfast, and to jump the waiting list for tickets.

Tickets for most away games are at a premium.

Spurs would receive around 3,000 tickets for the trip to Arsenal.

Tickets for the game sold out to Season Ticket Holders with a current total of 362 or more ticketing points (away credits). What buying the package through spurs means is that you could have no ticketing points. Never been to an away game. Not even have a season ticket, and yet jump the queue and get the rarest of rare briefs.

There will be fans who have been to 20-odd away games over the last 3 years who would have missed out on tickets. They find their place taken by someone who has not been to games and paid £298 for the privileged.

Greed is killing football.

Keenos

Tottenham apply to remain at Wembley until end of season

The latest news in the shambles the is the New Tottenham Stadium Saga, is permission has been sought from Brent Council and local residents for an additional 17 Tottenham games to be played at Wembley Stadium.

This additional 17 games will take the club up until the end of the season.

This is the latest delay to the new stadium, which was supposed to open at the beginning of this season.

Back in March we were aware (through our 9-5 work) that the stadium would not be open before the start of the season. The Tottenham hierarchy would have also been aware of this.

Despite this delay, the club still sold season tickets based on the stadium being open on time.

In June, it was announced that costs were beginning to spiral towards the £1bn mark. The dramatically increased costs explained why Tottenham were hiding the delays and selling season tickets.

They have used the season ticket money – around £80million – as an interest free loan to help finance the stadium. They have only been refunding this money on a game by game basis; at the same time they receive money from selling tickets at Wembley.

By July it was our understanding that the stadium would open 3 months late. October at the earliest we were told.

At this point, the club announced that they had failed to secure stadium naming rights and were giving full refunds to those companies who had purchased an executive box. The writing was on the wall but still Spurs management denied any issues.

By the end of July, trade Unions were urging the Government to investigate the poor working conditions and breaches of both Health & Safety and Working Time Regulations.

Spurs had begun announcing – slowly – that there were delays. The first game had already been moved to Wembley. Having requested that 3 of their first 4 away games were to be at home, it was announced to great fanfare that the first game of the season would be against Liverpool in the middle of September. We knew different.

Middle of August and it was announced by the club that the stadium would not be ready until early October; with games up to and including Cardiff on 6th October to be played at the national stadium. This announcement was a full month after we revealed the news of “October at the earliest”.

A day after the October delay was announced, we discovered that builders had actually had their contracts extended until the end of November. That it was highly likely that Tottenham would not play at their new ground until early 2019. Why would Tottenham announce mid-October when we knew it would be 2019?

Had they announced Early 2019, they would have had to have given huge refunds in August to fans who bought season tickets. Instead they lied and kept the money to assist with cash flow.

It was then announced that Tottenham were due to play all of their Champions League group games at Wembley. Their poor performance in the competition led to an investigation by the Advertising Standards Agency.

October confirmed what we knew in September. That the stadium would not be ready in 2018

Despite this being confirmed by many industry sources, Tottenham did not announce this decision until late-October. Another delayed announcement meaning that they kept that season ticket money for another month. This announcement also revealed that Tottenham had increased their loan facility to £637m.

It was at this time speculation circulated that the ground would not be open this season. With 3 test events, a January opening was highly unlikely.

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And now we have the news that Tottenham have applied to Brent Council to remain at the stadium until the end of the season. This will probably be announced by the club mid-December; based on previous experience of news being known a month before the club announce it.

The way Tottenham have treated their fans is an utter disgrace.

They have delayed announcements and hidden behind Health & Safety to retain season ticket money.

Whilst there have been issues with the fire safety installation, the project timescale was optimistic. It was based on their being no delays, no issues.

As someone within the construction industry, projects like these always have issues, always have delays. Crossrail has been delayed until August 2018 (it was scheduled to open December 2018. The completion of the Shard was also delayed. And both of these major projects did not have the aggressively short timescale of the Tottenham stadium.

When the Olympic stadium was being built, the aim was for an early 2012 completion. This gave LOCOG 8 months breathing space. It opened in March 2012; 6 months before the Olympics started.

The Tottenham Stadium was always an ambitious difficult project. Some UK construction firsts when building. When Tottenham announced that the ground was to be completed in 1 season – 15 months between the end of the 2016/17 season and beginning of the 2018/19, most industry insiders thought this was impossible.

Most felt it was at least a 2 year project. 24 months. That 15 months was impossible.

It is now a case of waiting and watching to see when Spurs announce that they will not be playing at their new ground this season.

Keenos

Greedy, Greedy Tottenham

For as long as I can remember, Arsenal have offered massively discounted tickets for the League Cup. This going back to the days of Highbury.

Only on one occasion in memory did we move away from this policy.

It was 2008 and Arsenal face Tottenham in the League Cup semi-final, and Arsenal proposed both clubs offer discounted tickets for all fans.

Tottenham refused, and all fans had to pay normal prices for both legs.

10 years on and Tottenham’s greed has reared its head again.

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In the League Cup, both sides share gate receipts – 45% each. Due to this both sides must agree the pricing. If they disagree, the Football League will mediate.

The understanding is Arsenal proposed keeping the current League Cup pricing structure that we had for Brentford and Blackpool. £10/£20 for adults and cheaper for kids. Tottenham have turned this proposal down.

How greedy are Tottenham that they are willing to deny their own fans cheaper tickets for a North London derby?

We are not even talking big money here. The difference just £500k or so. Are Tottenham so desperate for money to complete their over budget new ground that they are willing to screw over their own fans?

Well actually, Spurs have screwed over their fans all season.

We knew back in March that their new stadium would not be completed until October at the earliest. Further delays mean it is 2019, if at all this season.

Daniel Levy et al were privy to the same information as ourselves, et he still sold season tickets for a new stadium that was not yet completed.

He basically took an £80m interest free loan from all Tottenham fans.

The cynic in me says that Tottenham needed this money to pay off bills in an attempt to complete the stadium. They are now refunding fans on a game by game basis. Basically getting the revenue from Wembley sales and returning it to those fans who bought a Tottenham season ticket.

By doing this it controls cash flow, ensuring that Tottenham are not issuing refunds before they have bought in the cash to cover it.

It is a disgracefully greedy act by Levy, tax exile Joe Lewis and everyone at ENIC.

Arsenal are often criticised for having expensive tickets. The media usually fail to mention that we get 26 games for our season ticket.

It seems Tottenham are escaping criticism. Criticism for fleecing their own fans for season ticket money for an unfinished stadium. And now fleecing fans for a League Cup Quarter Final. The press are silent on both.

With recent announcements that a European Super League is back in the table – fuelling further greed from elite sides; even small clubs like Tottenham are showing that all they care about is the bottom line.

Keenos

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