Do Arsenal need Rice when they have Partey?

For those long term readers of the blog, you will know I take a pragmatic approach to transfers.

I was never part of the “Spend some f*****g money” brigade. And I was a prominant voice when it came to the Luis Saurez £40m+£1, with major news outlets retweeting my blog on the transfer.

And in recent days, whilst some said “we should just oay the fee” for Mykhailo Mudryk, I was suggesting we walk away.

I try to understand our finances. To try and guestimate what we can spend on players. And how an increased spend on a single player can reduce what we can then spend on another player.

Anyone that has ever bought a house will know the power of negotiations. You do not pay the asking price. You try and drive that price down. The more you can save, the more you can then spend on the refurbishment, on furniture. And save enough you might be able to buy a new car!

Arsenal do not have a bottomless pit of money. We are not Manchester City.

Yes, Stan Kroenke is richer than any of us could ever dream of. He has a networth of around $12.9billion. But Sheikh Mansour controls a family fortune estimated to be around least $1 trillion.

To put that into perspective, $12.9billion in seconds is around 396 years. $1trillion is It takes about 32,000 years.

As a good comparison, Man City have spent £225million on their central defenders. We have spent around £100million. And our figure includes Ben White who has now transformed into a right back.

We also should not compare ourselves to Chelsea.

Their spending is ridiculous right now. But what they are doing now will impact their transfer dealings for the next 3-4 years.

So when the news about Declan Rice broke, my first thought was “that money can be better spent elsewhere.

Originally, West Ham were holding out for a fee in excess of £100million for their captain. Chelsea have held a long term interest in their former Schoolboy player.

I gulped at that price and was firmly in the “no thanks” camp.

The main reason was Thomas Partey.

Partey is the best defensive midfielder in the world right now. Rice would not be an upgrade on him.

Yes, he has had his injury problems in recent seasons, but Arsenal now seem to be managing them well. I also have no concerns about his age.

People act like when a player turns 30, than their body completely breaks down. This is not true, every player is different.

Take Fernandinho.

In 2019/20, he played 41 times for Manchester City. He was 35-years-old. In his final season, as he turned 37, he played 33 matches.

There is no need for us to be discussing replacing Thomas Partey just because he turns 30 at the end of the season. And Declan Rice would be a Partey replacement.

I thought the more sensible route would be to buy someone younger and rawer, who would also be cheaper. Danilo and Moises Caciedo were the two names floated.

They could then play “2nd fiddle” to Partey for a year or two whilst they continue to learn and develop. Then the transition happens and they become first choice. Both are just 21 so it would not be an issue being a squad player at a title challenging team knowing they have a path to the first team.

Instead of signing Rice for £100million, you go and get someone younger, someone cheaper, and then use the difference to further add to the team elsewhere.

A few weeks ago, I would have said “you can get Mudryk and Danilo for the price of Declan Rice”. And a double move for those two made a lot of sense. Mudryk is now at Chelsea, Danilo and Nottingham Forest.

And maybe with what has happened with both indicates the interest in Rice – had we over spent on Mudryk, it would have left us less money to try and secure the England man.

In the last few days, I have had a change of heart. I can now build a case for buying Rice in my head.

Lower price for Rice

Last summer, West Ham made it clear – they want Jack Grealish money for Declan Rice. This is where the £100million valuation came from.

6 months down the line and Arsenal are being linked with an £80million move.

If we were looking to invest £100million on a winger and central midfielder previously, then £80million on Rice would leave us with the money to sign someone like Facundo Torres or Marcus Thuram. Or finance a year long loan deal for Joao Felix.

Rice has once year left on his contract – although West Ham do have an option to extend by a year.

That means this summer he will have 2-years left (West Ham will extend). If West Ham do not sell this summer, his value will plummet.

They are also in a relegation battle. If they do go down, there is no guarantee they will come straight back up. And that will reduce his value in 2024 further. It also reduces what they can demand this summer as he will not want to play Championship football.

His reduced value is also due to the list of his suitors reducing.

Perfect opportunity

Other than Arsenal, there are only 5 Premier League sides would be able to snap Rice up, and offer him the regular European football and trophies.

All 5 need to make improvements in midfield. But there is another Englishman potentially on the market who might garner their interest – Jude Bellingham.

Manchester City – They have Rodri and have invested in Kalvin Phillips. They will probably have no interest in Rice. Jude Bellingham, who plays further forward – will be their primary midfield target. He will be seen as a long term 8, replacing Kevin de Bruyne.

Liverpool – Like City, their focus will be on Bellingham. They would only switch their interest to Rice if Bellingham joins Manchester City.

Chelsea – Most expect Chelsea to snap up Rice in the summer. For me they still lead the race. But having invested so heavily in last two-windows, they will need to sell to buy this summer. Can they shift enough players in tiem to fund a big move for Rice?

Newcastle – Rice would be a real coup for the newly rich team. Their first real “mega star”. If they get Champions League football, they immediately become more attractive for players.

Manchester United have recently recruited Casemiro and Tottenham will not be a decent proposition for any ambitious player. They are just a richer West Ham.

With City and Liverpool’s eyes elsewhere, and Chelsea needing to sell to buy, the path to Rice could end up being clear for Arsenal if we move early enough.

What we will not want to do is drag negotiations out – this will give Chelsea the time to raise the funds and could also see Liverpool or Manchester City join the race if they do not get Bellingham.

Fits the priofile

Under Edu and Mikel Arteta, we have had a very clear profile for the majority of our signings – 25 or under, Premier League experience.

Aaron Ramsdale, Ben White, Gabriel Jesus, Oleksandr Zinchenko and Martin Odegaard have been our 5 major first team signings under the current leadership team. All 5 fit that criteria. And all 5 made an instant impact.

Rice also fits that criteria.

By the end of this season, Rice would have played over 200 Premier League games – and close to 250 in total for West Ham. Still just 24-years-old, he is their club captain and a good, solid pro. He ticks all the boxes for what Edu and Arteta want.

Thomas Partey

I am not interested in the debate over who is petter – Partey or Rice. Partey is better. Although Rice is in the Top 5 Premier League defensive midfielders alongside Partey, Rodri and Casemiro.

Rice would probabvly be 4th on this list just because he has not yet played at the highest level with a top club.

Replacing Partey with Rice would make no sense. So the next question is “can we accomodate Rice and Partey?”.

Initially I was looking at a “sorcerer and his apprentice” model – Partey as the senior pro and then someone 20-22 still learning. Rice would not be an apprentice and would leave us with 2 sorcerer’s.

We will play around 55 games next season. And with Champions League rather than Europa League, we can not really afford to only play Partey once a week. He will be needed in both the Premier League and Champions League. And that is the concern.

In his first season with us, Partey started 24 out of 58 games. He missed, or was on the bench for, 34 games.

Last season we still played 45 games despite not having European football. Partey started 24.

This season we have managed Partey’s game time to keep him fit for the Premier League. That has led him to start 15 of 26 games (at the time of writing).

Of the 129 games Arsenal have played since signing Partey, he has started 63. That is 48.8% of games.

So if we play 55 games in 2023/24, we should only expect Partey to be fit for 27 of them. That will leave 28 starts for someone else. Would that be enough to justify signing Rice?

Add in substitute appearances and you would expect both Partey and the second defensive midfielder to play around 40 games.

It would then be down to Arteta over which of the two starts in the big games.

An extra option

Signing Rice would also allow us to play Partey and Rice in tandem.

It is not too hard to make a case for us to play the pair away to Manchester City. You then either play Granit Xhaka (for further defensive cover), or Martin Odegaard.

I would also imagine that if we signed Rice, our pursuit for a “new 8” would end. We would play either Rice or Partey further forward if Xhaka was out injured.

Our midfield options would then be: Partey, Xhaka, Odegaard, Rice & Fabio Vieira.

Five men for 3 positions is a good place to be.

Partey leaving

I do not think Thomas Partey will leave any time soon. But I also do not think he will sign a new deal.

At 29, he is not over the hill – Casimiro is older! – but we know his injury history, the data.

How much injury management is going on right now? How many injections or painkillers is he is whilst we try and chase down the league title?

If we are having to manage his playing time at 29, it will only be a matter of time until the next injury comes along.

He also only has 2-years left on his contract. His current deal takes him through to being 33. At that point he will need replacing in the same way Rodri replaced Fernandinho.

Succession planning is so important to a football club. And the lack of adequete planning is why Chelsea now have an ageing squad and are having to spend huge on a rebuild.

Getting Rice in now will mean we have to worry less about managing Partey’s injuries. And even less worried about the drop off in quality.

You would basically have a situation where Rice and Partey job share for a year. And then the Englishman will probably take over full-time with Partey being 2nd choice for the final year of his contract.

With one-year to go, Arsenal would not get much in terms of fee for Partey, so we would be better keeping him for that last year and letting him leave for free.

If Partey is still fit, he may be happy to then spend a couple more years with us as a second choice player; in the same way Fernandinho was secondary to Rodri.

In 2025, we then have a 33-year-old Partey whose contract is coming to an end and a 26-year-old Rice. We would still have 5+ years of Rice playing at a high level.

And in 2025, you then buy the younger man and revert to sourcerer/apprentice (if Partey does not sign to stay on).

Summary

I still do not think spending big on a 6 was high on the agenda over the next two windows. We were probably looking at cheaper, younger options and then investing heavier elsewhere.

18 months time would probably have been when we would look to invest in that area. If the younger lad bought in had shown he was not up for it, I would have expected us to go big. But if they have proven to be Partey’s heir apparent, then it would look like great planning!

The Rice deal might be a year or so too early, but it is an opporunity that has risen that can not be missed.

Signing Rice will see sacrifices elsewhere.

We will not get him and then spend big on a winger. And I think it means we will not get an 8.

Our windows (including this) would then be: Rice, budget winger, cheap central defender.

It would still see us spend £120-150million. But it will just see the funds ring fenced for a top winger moved into Rice, and the funds ringfenced for a Partey understudy moved to the winger.

Keenos

New stadium, same brainless fans

Morning all. Hacve we all recovered from Sunday now?

What a day. What a result. One of them that will have us on cloud 9 for some time to come!

I was apprehensive before the game. We had not beaten Spurs away in the league since 2014. That apprehension diminished as I had a few beers and saw the line-ups.

Lots of people do “Combined XI’s” before big games. For me, they are up there with half and half scarves and holding cardboard signs begging for players shirts. Just no.

On seeing the line-ups, it was a struggle to see who from Spurs would get into the Arsenal team. Harry Kane is probably the only one. And even that is debatable as he does not have the legs to press the way Gabriel Jesus or Eddie Nketiah do.

It was the first time at their new ground, and what a fun experience!

Anyone who went to their old ground will know their wierd fans would stand on a street corner to hurl abuse as we did a right onto Park Lane towards the away end. I never really got it. None of them would do anything, and they would just stand behind the line of police giving it large.

I always wondered whether if the police disappeared, they would as well. Not as easy getting brave when no one is there to protect you.

In their new ground, the away end has moved. And it now makes sense to come up via Northumberland Park, walk west down Park Lane and do a right onto Worcester Avenue.

And low and behold, on the junction of Park Lane and Worcester Avenue were their fans, stood again behind police, singing “where the f**k are Arse-en-al?”

It was all very odd, because anyone doing a right onto Worcester Avenue were clearly Arsenal fans. And we certainly did not walk past trying to hide who we supported!

So their “hard men” have moved from the corner of Park Lane and the High Road to another street corner to welcome Arsenal fans whilst being kettled by police. All very strange.

The ground really was not that impressive when inside. Just the 3 levels of corporate seating! It really is designed to maximise that corporate revenue at the sacrifice of common fans. Much worse than the Emirates.

What I would say is the ground does clear quickly. As the final whistle went, their “big stand” was probably 70% empty. Good effort allowing fans to exit so quickly.

We dominated them. We turned up to their house, shagged their wife whilst they watched on in a corner, and then left without cleaning up after ourselves.

The fact their fans were reduced to attempting to assault Aaron Ramsdale, and throwing obsenities behind the police lines does show how backwards they are. Must be something in the water in Middlesex.

After Manchester City’s defeat, we are now favourites to win the league. I am not comfortable with that.

Up next is the inform Manchester United. City play twice before that game, so the 8 point gap may be just 2 before we play next.

We just need to keep taking it one game at a time.

I will not allow myself to dream. Yet. But for now all my dreams are about Sunday!

UTA

Keenos

MATCH REPORT: Tottenham 0 – 2 Arsenal

Tottenham Hotspur (0) 0 Arsenal (2) 2

Premier League

Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, 782 High Road, London N17 0BX

Sunday, 15th January 2023. Kick-off time: 4.30pm

(4-3-3) Aaron Ramsdale; Ben White, William Saliba, Gabriel Magalhães, Oleksandr Zinchenko; Martin Ødegaard (c), Thomas Partey, Granit Xhaka; Bukayo Saka, Eddie Nketiah, Gabriel Martinelli.

Substitutes: Kieran Tierney, Emile Smith-Rowe, Rob Holding, Takehiro Tomiyasu, Fabio Vieira, Albert Sambi Lokonga, (Marcus Vinicius Oliveira Alencar) Marquinhos, Matt Turner, Matt Smith.

Scorers: Lloris (14 mins, o.g.), Martin Ødegaard (36 mins)

Yellow Cards: Gabriel Martinelli, Gabriel

Arsenal Possession Percentage: 49%

Referee: Craig Pawson

Assistant Referees: Marc Perry, Scott Ledger

Fourth Official: Darren England

VAR Team at Stockley Park: VAR Paul Tierney; AVAR Constantine Hatzidakis

Attendance: 62,850

This afternoon’s match is a huge test for us, as not only is it a North London derby (of course), but we have to win in order for us to maintain a healthy distance between ourselves and second placed Manchester City in the Premiership table. Mikel Arteta has chosen the same eleven that played out a frustrating 0-0 draw against Newcastle United at the Emirates last Tuesday evening, which also means, of course, that there is no place in the starting line-up for Emile Smith-Rowe who is on the substitute’s bench today.

We kicked off proceedings in the sixty-second North London derby (in the Premiership), and for the first few minutes, both teams showed intent and desire to win with strong tacking and good passing throughout. We won our first corner of the match after just seven minutes, and although Bukayo Saka fired over a great ball, the home side’s defenders cleared it easily. And then, the Spurs’ defenders made a complete mess of things at the back, and Gabriel Martinelli flicked the ball over a defender to Eddie Nketiah, who was unmarked about ten yards out, but he shot straight at goalkeeper Hugo Lloris. On the tenth minute, a Martin Ødegaard free-kick found the head of Gabriel, whose subsequent header flew over the bar. The Spurs’ players thought that Thomas Partey should be booked for hand ball after Granit Xhaka lost the ball, but the referee disagreed, thankfully. After fourteen minutes, we opened the scoring when Bukayo Saka ran onto a long ball down the right and cut inside Ryan Sessegnon and blasted in a shot from an impossible angle which went straight at Hugo Lloris, yet somehow he flapped and fiddled at it, and it went into the net! Four minutes later, Spurs’ first chance of the game came when Son Heung-min was picked out in space in the penalty area by Ryan Sessegnon but his low shot was comfortably saved by Aaron Ramsdale. On our next attack, Bukayo Saka found Eddie Nketiah in the Spurs’ penalty area, who hit a low ball across the area but it was cleared, and then Martin Ødegaard shot from just outside the penalty area in which a diving Hugo Lloris pushed wide. Then the ball landed to Thomas Partey from at least twenty yards and he hit a stunning volley which had Hugo Lloris beaten but hit the post and bounced out into play. Bukayo Saka beat his man again on the edge of the penalty area far too easily but his cross was cleared, and then Hugo Lloris caught a cross and then tried to send away Dejan Kulusevski with a long ball, but we gave him no options and he lost the ball cheaply. Gabriel Martinelli was fouled by Cristian Romero, who received the first booking of the day, and quite rightly so, it has to be said. Nine minutes before the break, we won the ball from a Hugo Lloris goal-kick and come forward in earnest. Bukayo Saka picked out captain Martin Ødegaard, who hit a beautiful shot from almost thirty yards, which zipped into the bottom corner of the net for our second goal of the match, for his eighth Premiership goal of this campaign. Shortly afterwards, a Martin Ødegaard free kick hit the Spurs defensive wall and spun off across the ground, and in injury time, Ryan Sessegnon received a booking for a poor tackle, and after a superb save by Aaron Ramsdale from a Harry Kane header, referee Craig Pawson blew the whistle for half-time.

The home side kicked off the start of the second half, and as in the first half, strong tackling appears to be the order of the day here. After a Dejan Kulusevski shot from the right wing flew over the bar, Aaron Ramsdale made a superb fingertip save from Harry Kane; the resulting corner from the home side went nowhere, and Spurs are putting us under pressure, with some excellent defending from our men denying them any chance of scoring at this point in the match. Gabriel Martinelli was fouled badly by Pape Sarr, who was booked for his trouble, and after Martin Ødegaard’s free kick went out for a throw-in, Eddie Nketiah received a great pass from Gabriel Martinelli and his excellent shot was saved by Hugo Lloris. The second half was far more of an end-to-end game than it was in the first, and both sides are trying hard to score. Harry Kane flicked a long ball into the path of Dejan Kulusevski but Thomas Partey got there first, and a few minutes later, it was almost party time for Gabriel Martinelli as he controlled the ball with his back! The subsequent pass to Thomas Partey saw his shot fly past the post. Gabriel Martinelli was booked for a foul and with twenty minutes of the match remaining, Eddie Nketiah could have wrapped everything up as he was picked out in space in the penalty area, but he shot straight at Hugo Lloris, which was a real wasted chance. Eric Dier received a booking for a nasty tackle on Bukayo Saka, and Clement Lenglet also received a yellow card for his part in the same incident too. Martin Ødegaard was fouled on the edge of the penalty area; Eddie Nketiah shot from the loose ball and it was saved, but Craig Pawson called it back for a free-kick, which Granit Xhaka took, and it flew over the bar and into the crowd. Kieran Tierney replaced Gabriel Martinelli with twelve minutes of the game remaining, and with nine minutes of the game remaining, after a short period of “to and fro” in our penalty area, Aaron Ramsdale made a superb save to stop the home side from scoring. Takehiro Tomiyasu replaced Oleksandr Zinchenko, and a minute or so later, Spurs won a free-kick right on the edge of the penalty area as Ivan Perisic was clipped by Eddie Nketiah; the free kick taken by Son Heung-min went straight at our defensive wall, thankfully. In the five minutes’ injury time, Gabriel was booked for time wasting, ridiculously, and in the third minute of time added on, Emile Smith-Rowe and Fabio Vieira replaced Martin Ødegaard and Eddie Nketiah, and as Aaron Ramsdale caught a cross from Btyan Gil, the referee blew the final whistle, and as such, we ran out worthy winners. 

All in all, it was a fantastic performance by the boys, particularly in the first half. Aaron Ramsdale was incredible today, and the team was dominant in all areas, which was great to see. We are now eight points ahead of Manchester City in the Premiership table tonight, and things are looking great, but we cannot let our heart rule our head; after al, they do not give winning medals out in January, we have to keep our resolve, hold our nerve and see where we end up in May.

Remember everyone, keep the faith, get behind the team and the manager, as this season is going to be crucial for our future success in all competitions. Stick with the winners. Our next match: Manchester United at the Emirates on Sunday, 22nd January at 4.30pm (Premier League). Be there, if you can. Victoria Concordia Crescit.

Steve

Too Dearly Loved To Be Forgotten: Arsenal v Racing Club de Paris 1930-1962 by Steve Ingless (Rangemore Publications, ISBN 978-1-5272-0135-4) is now available on Amazon