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9 years no trophies for The Arsenal, but what about other clubs?

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During the FA Cup tie yesterday, once we were 4-1 up and cruising through to a Wembley Semi Final, I started to think about when we last won a trophy. 2005 was that date, the same competition. It has been well documented in the press that it has been 9 years for Arsenal without a trophy. 9 long years. 9 years of suffering. But then I looked at who we were playing . Everton.

The last time Everton won a trophy was in 1995. With no chance of a trophy this year, that will make it 19 years without a trophy. But where are the headlines? Where are the big stories? There are none. Now Everton are a big side. They have won the league 9 times and the FA Cup 5 times.  Before Arsene Wenger took over at Arsenal, Everton had only won 1 League title and 1 FA Cup less than Arsenal.

Everton are by no means a small club. They are 6th on the all time list of England’s most successful clubs. That position was 5th before Chelsea won the lottery. So why no headlines? 19 years is a lot longer than Arsenal’s 9. Remember, before Arsene Wenger, Arsenal & Everton were similar sized clubs (honours, stadium size, fan base, success, time in top division, etc).

This got me thinking further. So much is made of 9 years without a trophy for Arsenal, but if the press are hushed up on Everton’s 19 years, how long has it been for other clubs?

Team Last Trophy Total Trophies
Manchester City 2014 16
Manchester United 2013 62
Swansea City 2013 1
Wigan Athletic 2013 1
Chelsea 2013 26
Liverpool 2012 60
Birmingham City 2011 2
Tottenham Hotspur 2008 24
Portsmouth 2008 5
Arsenal 2005 39
Middlesbrough 2004 1
Blackburn Rovers 2002 12
Fulham 2002 1
Leicester City 2000 4
Aston Villa 1996 23
Everton 1995 24
Leeds United 1992 9
Sheffield Wednesday 1991 9
Crystal Palace 1991 1
Nottingham Forest 1990 13
Luton Town 1988 1
Reading 1988 1
Wimbledon 1988 1
Coventry City 1987 1
Oxford United 1986 1
Norwich City 1985 2
Ipswich Town 1981 3
Wolves 1980 13
West Ham United 1980 6
Southampton 1976 1
Derby County 1975 4
Sunderland 1973 9
Stoke City 1972 1
Swindon Town 1969 1
Newcastle United 1969 13
QPR 1967 1
Burnley 1960 5
Bolton Wanderers 1958 5
Blackpool 1953 1
Charlton Athletic 1947 1
Preston North End 1938 4
Cardiff City 1927 2
Huddersfid Town 1926 5
Sheffield United 1925 5
Barnsley 1912 1
Bradford City 1911 1
Bury 1903 2
Notts County 1894 1
Blackburn Olympic 1883 1
Old Etonians 1882 2
Old Carthusians 1881 1
Clapham Rovers 1880 1
Wanderers 1878 5
Royal Engineers 1875 1
Oxford University 1874 1

When I see big sides such as Aston Villa and Everton having not won a trophy in nearly 2 decades, when Nottingham Forest, winners of 2 European Cups, have been trophyless since 1990, Wolves since 1980, and that ‘massive club’ Newcastle since 1969, I wonder, why the continual fuss over Arsenal?

Yes, 9 years is a long time for Arsenal, but only 9 clubs have won a trophy since Arsenal’s last win, and 5 of those clubs won just won trophy. The table above brings a lot into perspective.

We have a chance of winning the FA Cup this season. If we do win it, maybe the press can stop talking about Arsenal and start talking about Everton’s last 19 years, or Spurs not winning a league title since 1961.

Keenos

10 Reasons why we will beat Everton + starting X1

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1) Everton haven’t beaten us at home in 19 games, We have won 15 and drawn 4.

2) We haven’t lost in our last 13 domestic home games, We have won 10 and drawn 3.

3%) Everton’s Prem away record this season played 14, Won 4, drawn 6, lost 4, scored 14, conceded 17.

4) Wenger will of learned from the 1-1 draw in the Prem earlier in the season, hopefully.

5) Wilshere, Ramsey, Kallstrom and Diaby are all injured, meaning the 2 stable old heads of Arteta and Flamni should both play.

6) We are in the unique position were both Chesney and Fabianski are in good form.

7) The players must know this is our best chance of any silverware, beat Everton and there’s only Man City who would trouble us.

8) Giroud has been banging them in away from home, about time he settled down and did the right thing at home…

9) Everton have won only 1 (one) game in the Capital this season, a last min goal away to Westham.

10) Arsene Knows he wants to rest players for this game in the hope of a miracle in Munich, but he knows anything but a strong side will leave him open to big questions if we lose.

I’d start a full strength side, but I have the feeling Wenger will go with..

Chesney, Jenks, Gibbs, BFG, TV, Flamini, Arteta, Ox, Santi, Sanogo, Podolski.

WHAT DID SHE WEAR ???

afc79

Wenger Needs to Rest Players in the Champions League

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With the loss at Stoke on Saturday the league campaign is once again slipping away. I cant see us maintaining a challenge to finish top. Chelsea seem to be bang in form and with City winning the C1C it’ll give them added momentum to move through the gears and start putting the pressure on to Chelsea. It will be a 2 horse race IMO.

We gave a huge effort against Bayern Munich in the first leg and with 11 players on the pitch the game could have taken a different turn. Had we deservedly gone 1-0 up in the first 10 minutes we would have been confident enough to get the win but it didn’t happen like that and now we have the prospect of going out to Munich 3 days after a massive quarter final against Everton in a competition we have a real chance of winning.

Off target: Mesut Ozil missed from the spot in Arsenal's 2-0 defeat against Bayern Munich on Wednesday night

We need to be selective over the game we choose to be more important and ultimately play a weaker side in the game we deem to be less important. Last season Wenger played a weaker than usual side against Blackburn on a Saturday in the FA Cup, as we were due to play Munich at home on the Tuesday after. This ended in disaster with us losing to Blackburn and then going out against Munich. We should have chosen the more important game and gone all out to win it rather than to try and win both, which was beyond us.
Don’t get me wrong, the team we put out against Blackburn should have won comfortably but they didn’t and so you look at the changes made as the reason why. Squad players that came in were Coquelin, Ox, Diaby and Rosicky I think, and Wenger made a total of 7 changes to the team from the previous game.

If we look at the current situation we need to choose the FA Cup game as the one to win and we need to play a strong side which means playing squad players out in Munich. We are fading in the league, top 4 should still be a formality but a title challenge is becoming more and more distant. Being 2-0 down to Munich is a hard result to overturn especially in their own back yard, yes we did beat them last season 2-0 but I can’t see us doing that again. We have Everton in the FA Cup quarter final in a game we can possibly win. If we get through we have a Semi Final at Wembley with a shot at the final. This has to be the game we target.

It raises the question of the fans. Fans that have paid good money to go out to Munich to follow them and support them, if they saw a weakened side they wouldn’t be happy which is understandable. My Step Dad is one of those fans going out there and he has stated the opposite, he would happily go and support the squad players so long as we play full strength in the cup against Everton. I’m not sure if this opinion is across the board with fans going out to Munich, maybe you could let me know your thoughts.

We have a chance of a trophy and we need to do everything we can to get to that final to win it. Id be disappointed if on Saturday we see changes and players rested for the Munich game. Our squad is not the deepest and its too much to ask to be at full strength for both games.
I truly hope Wenger sees it this way and does the right thing!

Cheers for reading

Norby