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You are allowed to want Arsenal to win (and want Wenger Out)

I want to be positive. I really do.

Arsenal face AC Milan tonight in the Europa League. Defeat will make it 5 losses on the spin. One of the worst runs I can remember in my lifetime. A run that would see Arsene Wenger surely lose his job (if our board had a pair).

I will never be one of these fans who says they want Arsenal to lose so that Wenger is sacked. I want Arsenal to win the Europa League. And in my mind, all true supporters should want us to win the trophy.

Many fans will see that winning the Europa League will give Wenger a lifeline. The truth is, he should leave Arsenal even if we win the Europa League. But the reality is that even if we do not win it, the board will probably let him see out his last year of his contract.

Or they might not. Moves might already be being made to replace him this summer. Regardless of performance.

Who knows what is happening at Arsenal. I do not think Wenger’s future is tied to success in Europe.

So having made that statement, I want us to win the Europa League.

Arsenal have not won a trophy in Europe since 1994. We have lost 3 finals in 3 difference competitions since then.

European success is the only thing Spurs fans have over Arsenal. They have 3, we have 2. Winning in Lyon in May will even things up.

If wanting Arsenal to win trophies is a bad thing, something that can not make you happy, buzz your tits off, then I am sorry. Actually, I will not apologise for wanting to see my club win things.

Changing manager will not guarantee success. Liverpool have shown that with the appointments of both Brendan Rodgers and Jurgen Klopp. 6 years with no trophies.

So if changing managers does not guarantee success, we should not be saying that we do not want to win trophies so that we change manager.

Live in the moment, in the here and now. You can not predict the future, so cheer on a win against AC Milan.

They are not as good as some think.

Like Arsenal in recent years, they are a big club whose star has fallen.

I saw someone on Twitter state that AC Milan were as good as they were when they beat us 4-0 in the San Siro a few years back.

Well if your agenda pushes you to say Fabio Borini is as good as Zlatan Ibrahimovic, then live in your cloud coo-coo land with your fairies and expectation that changing manager will mean instant success.

A few other things just coming to mind…

A lot of fuss has been made over Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain “making the Champions League Quarter Final for the first time in his career”.

On the face of it, you would say that this highlights the massive underachievement by Arsenal in the Champions League, and it perhaps does. But it also ignores that Oxlade-Chamberlain was complicate in that underachievement. He was in many of the starting XI’s that saw us get knocked out.

So Liverpool fans are celebrating Oxlade-Chamberlain making the QF of the Champions League for the first time in his career, even though he did not play a single minute? So he is still yet to win a Champions League knockout tie.

Maybe that is where Arsenal went wrong? They should not have played The Ox? And this is perhaps my favourite…

The way some Arsenal fans and the media big up Oxlade-Chamber like he is performing any better for Liverpool than Arsenal is hilarious.

At Arsenal, who would have a spell of 2/3 games in a row of great performances, followed by 10 games of doing nothing. Not much has changed – we as Arsenal fans now just no longer see the poor games.

He has 3 Premier League goals this season. That is one less than Nacho Monreal, and one more than Alex Iwobi.

Lets calla spade a spade. He was average at Arsenal, is average at Liverpool, and is simply an average, inconsistent player.

On a final note (in an attempt to be positive) I had a it of fun with this tweet from friend of the page AFC_Glen.

https://twitter.com/AFC_GLEN/status/971330957943934976

A 3 year old arsenal fan would have seen his side win 2 FA Cups. Compare that to his playschool mate who support Liverpool. Nothing. Or Spurs. Nothing.

Come to think about it, the 3 year old Arsenal fan has seen more success than a 27 year old Spurs!

There are granddads in Cheshunt who have seen Tottenham win less than that 3 year old Arsenal fan.

Hopefully all those out in AC Milan get around OK, despite the widespread transport strikers. I went their when we lost 4-0 and it was a great few days at the football. Top city, top drinking, and they sell mini bottles of sambuca in the ground.

Up the Arsenal

Keenos

Tottenham Celebrate 10 Year Anniversary

Tomorrow Arsenal play in the League Cup Final at Wembley. The clubs 4 visit to Brent in under 5 years.

But today is also a cause of celebration in North London. Not for Arsenal fans, but for fans of Tottenham.

Today is the 10th anniversary of Tottenham winning their last trophy. The 2008 League Cup.

It is quite ironic really, that whilst Spurs fans talk of a power shift, and boast about their teams success, Arsenal are in the ones in a final.

And the trophy Arsenal are playing for is own considered as “not enough” to make it a successful season. The same trophy (Just with a different sponsor name) as Spurs fans won 10 years ago.

It perhaps shows the size of the gap between the two clubs. That it is 10 years since Tottenham last won a trophy, and Arsenal are playing for it that same trophy tomorrow. Whilst Spurs celebrate having won that trophy as their greatest success in the last 27 years, Arsenal would see winning the trophy as a failure.

So Tottenham, enjoy your 10 year anniversary. Buy your loved one a tin. And remember, it takes a lost more than one season to shift the power.

Keenos

No passion left in the North London Derby

On a Thursday the feeling would start….. the nerves, the anticipation, the hatred. Friday, is about making the arrangements, what pub, what train, what time. Saturday comes and we jump out of bed, it’s never a struggle,  and we pace until we leave the house. It could only mean one thing…. London derby!

The result means everything, it’s about pride, it’s about status and it’s about pecking order. It’s not 3 points, it’s everything. Form goes out of the window, it’s about two teams fighting with everything they have and usually comes down to a bit of luck on the day.

Well, that’s how it used to be.

Now, its all a bit more respectful. I don’t like that.

I sat on the train yesterday after waking at 4am and not being able to sleep. Nerves, felt sick, not confident but the hope was still there. I listened to a couple of blokes on the train who were also on their way to Wembley, they were Tottenham fans, and were talking about how great it is to sit with 80,000 Tottenham fans every other week. They felt the club was going in the right direction with a new fan base and how magnificent it was that they are getting so many new fans.

At first I got some satisfaction as thinking ‘You have no idea just what is ahead of you when you move into your new ground’ then I started to feel a bit deflated. Is this what it’s become. Success now is about how many people you get through your gates? How many people will buy the over priced crap lager and how many people wear the shirt?

When I got to Wembley we walked up to the ground with them. What’s that all about? Where was the atmosphere outside the ground? Where was the nervousness? It’s all gone. To be honest I felt exactly the same at their place last year. The atmosphere was flat, they stood outside their pubs tapping their toes to Chas n Dave, drinking out of their plastic glasses and looked menacing, but actually they weren’t. The hatred is starting to die.  Exactly the same can be said at The Emirates, it’s all very gentlemanly.

Silly kick off times don’t help but our fan base, as has theirs, has been diluted with a new passive hardcore.

Our form this year,  along with a split fan base isn’t conducive for a good day out. Half hearted attempts at songs, sitting in arenas rather than football grounds all contributes to a pleasant day out. But I don’t want a pleasant day out. I want a day of emotion and elation, I would even take anger rather than the acceptance that has become my new best friend.

I sat with 3 people to my right yesterday wearing half and half scarves. Half and half scarves for that game in the away end. Unbelievable. Shocking. Disgraceful.

I also saw loads of them wearing them, more of them than our lot to be honest. Where have our London derbies gone? How did they end up like this?

Rewind to a few weeks back and the semi final against Chelsea. A league cup semi final and for many fans it was an option game. Most hardcore and regulars chose not to go. I went in my usual seat which is littered with old clockenders with a history to be faced with a bunch of new faces. Now I have some respect for these fans who will come to any game they can get a ticket for, that I have no problem with. But, I sat watching a London derby semi final! I’ve never sat for a semi final in my life! Within 5 minutes I was told to sit down by someone who I’ve never seen before. Two kids in front of me wearing their scarves and really up for watching their first semi final stood on their chairs. Great I thought, maybe we do have a new generation coming through. Shouting abuse and making the odd wanker sign and they were ready for their love affair with our club to take hold. No, they were told to sit down, they sat down for the rest of he game and applauded politely at the end like all the others.

My opinion is there are a few reasons for this sudden change,  the main one being so many proper Arsenal have had enough and stay away now. They keep their season tickets and away scheme members as an insurance policy but they then sell them on to these people who want to visit an arena and want to wear a half and half scarf. There is no singing because they don’t know the songs, there is no hatred because they haven’t had the experiences…..and sadly, they never will.

I get people wanting to stay away, totally understand that, trust me, I am very very close to also calling it a day myself.  But, we have to keep fighting. I keep hearing that people will come back when Wenger has gone but I feel scared that there won’t be a club to come back to. You will come into the ground and hate it because it’s being allowed to be taken over by people who want a pleasant day out. People who wear half and half scarves and people who want to sit down for a semi final against Chelsea.

My message to the half and half scarf brigade, don’t fu**ing do it, don’t buy them for your kids as they won’t thank you, don’t come into an Arsenal away end looking like a dick.

Be Arsenal, stand, sing, and fight against the oppression.

*JD*